Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
You say:
7. AGAIN, IT’S NOT THAT MY STYLE DOES NOT COMMUNICATE that upsets folks. NOT BY A LONG SHOT. It is that my style or words communicate far more than folks want to hear. They strike to the core of their sacred cows and sensibilities. THAT’S WHAT UPSETS THEM. Not the lack of clarity.
Now, what if I were to respond with, for example:
But I think a lot would just think, "Well, [naughty word] you," and go about their business.
AND, you may think it's the content of what you say the runs people off or makes them want to run you off. The reason I rarely 'engage' with you is that I feel like have to endure a lot of insults to find something that can be discussed reasonable in what you say. I am unable to stay on topic with all this emotional shrapnel flying around.
I can tell when somebody disagrees and when he feels very strongly bout his disagreement. But this is not useful information. What I need is the thought process that leads to the disagreement.
Oh! I know! If I may use the pop-psychobabble of Transactional Analysis ... I like to think I am concerned with adult conversation. I know keeping some stuff straight in my head is demanding. It SEEMS to me that some of these exotic posts are almost punitive; that they are working against "hooking the adult"; that they are degrading, as though I were being punished.
Now that I think of it, that MIGHT could have something to do with some of the return fire. I mean if A is punishing B, A can be seen as taking a "parent" role on himself and as trying to force B into a "child" role. IF that is the perception (whatever the motivation) then A will be seen as bombastic and his interlocutors will be tempted to try to "take him down a peg."
Just a thought.
On the other hand, I DO (note use of capital letters) appreciate that sometimes it's hard to convey tempo and emphasis with monofont pixels.
Oh well, different strokes, sez me. (I'm studying to be a liberal) (No I am not EITHER!)
I have watched your Mass on your Catholic tv station numerous time...Not once has the wine been offered while I was watching...
Years ago when I ate the cracker at one of your churches, there was no wine offered...Maybe your experience is the exception to the rule...
I bought the encyclical. I read the encyclical. I understood what Ratzinger was saying. That's how I could talk about it and disagree with it.
Reading facilitates that. RCs should try it.
I don't think tht's what Quix is saying. I think he's saying the LGMs will CLAIM, and claim very persuasively, to have done this bioengineering.
Oh, you're one of those Catholic priests, eh??? Are you Jesus right now???
This Is Cool...I'm typing back and forth with Jesus...
Apparently Jesus didn't think so...But then he didn't have to deal with Catholic tradition...
Reading facilitates that. RCs should try it.
What future would there be in THAT!
Then they’d have to learn to THINK!
After centuries of the Vatican thinking for them!
You’re getting REAL heretical now!
2171 God entrusted the sabbath to Israel to keep as a sign of the irrevocable covenant.95 The sabbath is for the Lord, holy and set apart for the praise of God, his work of creation, and his saving actions on behalf of Israel.
2172 God's action is the model for human action. If God "rested and was refreshed" on the seventh day, man too ought to "rest" and should let others, especially the poor, "be refreshed."96 The sabbath brings everyday work to a halt and provides a respite. It is a day of protest against the servitude of work and the worship of money.97
2173 The Gospel reports many incidents when Jesus was accused of violating the sabbath law. But Jesus never fails to respect the holiness of this day.98 He gives this law its authentic and authoritative interpretation: "The sabbath was made for man, not man for the sabbath."99 With compassion, Christ declares the sabbath for doing good rather than harm, for saving life rather than killing.100 The sabbath is the day of the Lord of mercies and a day to honor God.101 "The Son of Man is lord even of the sabbath."102
2174 Jesus rose from the dead "on the first day of the week."104 Because it is the "first day," the day of Christ's Resurrection recalls the first creation. Because it is the "eighth day" following the sabbath,105 it symbolizes the new creation ushered in by Christ's Resurrection. For Christians it has become the first of all days, the first of all feasts, the Lord's Day (he kuriake hemera, dies dominica) Sunday:We all gather on the day of the sun, for it is the first day [after the Jewish sabbath, but also the first day] when God, separating matter from darkness, made the world; and on this same day Jesus Christ our Savior rose from the dead.106
In the year 110—only twelve years after the death of the last apostle—Ignatius, bishop of Antioch, calls the Sabbath "antiquated." The full passage of the letter of Ignatius to the Magnesians, reads: "Do not be led astray by other doctrines nor by old fables which are worthless. For if we have been living by now according to Judaism, we must confess that we have not received grace. The prophets . . . who walked in ancient customs came to a new hope, no longer Sabbatizing but living by the Lord’s day, on which we came to life through Him and through His death."
Ignatius was of Antioch - from 110 AD and Antioch did not celebrate Sabbath but the Lord's Day, Sunday
You can wail about Jews as much as you want but Christians were still considered a Jewish sect until the destruction of the Second Temple in AD 69. There were many Judaizers in the first century, but with the end of the second Temple, it was understood that there was a new covenant with the entire world (yet the old covenant with the Jews remained and remains).
Around the years 80–90, Christians were thrown out of the synagogues. This may have provided further stimulus for Christians to change their worship from Sabbath to Sunday. The apostle John wrote his gospel in this same time frame, significant because it provided for Christians an explanation of how God could change an "everlasting" law. John wrote how the world had been symbolically created anew in Jesus. One implication of this is that with the passion, death, and resurrection of Christ one eternity had ended and another had begun. God could therefore abrogate an everlasting law and still not contradict himself.
If you wish to argue with +John go ahead.
Romans 14 is talking about fasting / days for fasting --> quite wrong, Romans 14 says clearly5One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind.You may quote any early work outside of Scripture that has extant copies dating before 300. The rest (basically all) are suspect, and I will reject them outright. --> if you claim that the works of the Didache are suspect, why do you not claim that scripture is suspect -- both those errors are claimed by the heresiachs and they were wrong. +Ignatius is quite clear that first century Christians celebrated on Sunday.
EXACTLY RIGHT.
THANKS
Good post.
I’ll just add this: The other day I tapped on Father Steven’s door and said “Can I get a half hour with you sometime?” He said yes, and he pulled out his I-phone (or whatever) and I my Crackberry. I glanced up from my device to see him in the classic personal device posture, hunch over, head bowed. And of course, he’s in the Dominican habit as he does this ....
cracked me up.
I believe those things.
Because Quix;s wordings are still “bioengineering all the religious greats of history—FOR SOCIAL ENGINEERING PURPOSES—including Jesus” —> pretty apparent that he believes Jesus was somehow bio-engineered by zombie demons posing as aliens
Of course there is the spiritual world, but do you really believe a la quix that demons bio-engineer different robotic alien zombies to come here and pretend to be aliens?
now what? That discombobulated robotic aliens controlled by demons hide under rocks as scorpions
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Your point 8, you say God is not prissy, He is holy. AMEN. You also say, ‘It is my duty ... to shred prissy hogwash.’ I see you doing that not only on FR but in REAL TIME too, you won’t stand for prissy anything ever anywhere, that’s who you are.
Happy Friday to you my FRiend.
Loving Mary as a friend is a good thing. We are called to love all those who love God.
Loving Mary as a "mediator between God and men;" as a "co-redeemer;" and as a "dispensatrix of all grace" is not a good thing. In fact, it is expressly forbidden by God according to His holy word. Thus, it is a very bad thing.
Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God" -- Exodus 20:4-5
"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus" -- 1 Timothy 2:5"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
Rome teaches error. Rome teaches men to love Mary because she supposedly dispenses salvation to each men.
Blaspehmy.
“Every grace to man has three degrees. One, by God it is communicated to Christ. Two, by Christ it is passed to the Virgin. Three, from the Virgin it descends to us.” -- Pope Leo XIII
Flee from that pernicious lie. Here's the truth...
By Christ every grace is directly passed on to His sheep; to those who are called by God; to those whom He loved in order for them to love Him; to believers.
“space cadet”? Dont’ you mean “bio-engineered space cadet”?
So, let’s get this straight — you agree to the idea of discombobulated demons posing as zombie aliens who are actually bio-engineered robots and you think that the idea of transubstantiation is strange?
lol. Amen! Men either trust God to inform them through His word or they don't.
Thankfully, when the Holy Spirit moves a man to actually read the Bible with new eyes and new ears, the truth prevails and Rome is left behind.
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