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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)


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To: metmom

You are a real trooper. Thanks for hanging in there.

God bless you, sister.

Joya


3,241 posted on 09/09/2010 10:59:35 PM PDT by Joya
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To: Mad Dawg; Dr. Eckleburg; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; Joya; Las Vegas Dave; The Comedian; metmom; ...

I’ll try a bit more about my style etc.

Dr E might actually agree with MD on some of the Quix style stuff! LOL. What a miracle!

1. Yes, stream of consciousness is not always easy to track.

2. Yes, my first draft is all I do style is not usually extremely tight in terms of grammar etc. I virtually never edit, rewrite my stuff. It’s 97-98% first draft is all I ever do stuff.

3. I do love neologisms. That’s not likely to change.

4. I do love colors. That’s not likely to change.

5. I do love . . . on this limited medium, using line breaks for emphasis . . . and about everything else I can use for emphasis . . . there’s no voice tones; no raised eyebrows; no cadence changes; no facial changes . . . one has to improvise.

6. My style is far from one size fits all. I know that. That’s a given. That’s fine with me.

7. AGAIN, IT’S NOT THAT MY STYLE DOES NOT COMMUNICATE that upsets folks. NOT BY A LONG SHOT. It is that my style or words communicate far more than folks want to hear. They strike to the core of their sacred cows and sensibilities. THAT’S WHAT UPSETS THEM. Not the lack of clarity.

8. The centered column style gives some buddies trouble. I’m sorry for that. However, I won’t stop using it. I do think a LOT of the line break and color stuff outrages and troubles so many folks because they are LOCKED TENACIOUSLY INTO THE CONVENTIONAL. IT JANGLES NOT ONLY THEIR SENSIBILITIES BUT TO SOME DEGREE EVEN THEIR PHYSIOLOGY to have to contend with something so DIFFERENT. IF they relaxed and went with the flow—as they might with a new book of poetry done differently, it would likely be easier on their phsysiology and they might enjoy it.

9. It doesn’t really matter that critically to me. The angst and battles about that have been waged internally and with others over enough years and emphatically enough with God—there’s no longer any doubt as to my mandate. It is TO BE ME in all that entails vis a vis my writing.

10. Some of that will weed out some who might otherwise benefit. Some of that will speak more powerfully to others that it’s evidently designed for. Regardless, I have no other path I can travel in such matters.

11. Most of the carping comes because the KILL THE MESSENGER compulsion is so intense, folks will find anything to be critical of me about that they can—in the hopes of getting some purchase on my flesh from which to shred me limb from limb as figuratively as possible if they can’t get to my actual flesh. What else is new.

12. I love playing with language. I love exploring people’s responses to language. I love exploring people’s nuances of emotion, ideas, perspectives, values. The intense grist for the mill kinds of dialogues have a lot of all that for me and that’s a lot of why I love them so.

13. Probably 95% of the pronouncements about my motives or goals or whatever by the rabid clique sorts are just plain off the wall wrong, inaccurate, false.

Praise God for that!

Enough.

Bless YOU for caring, Bro.


3,242 posted on 09/09/2010 11:12:12 PM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNATED: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics)
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To: Cronos
Yes, we know you can cut-and-paste reviews for the book.

I'll ask you one more time...

What is the specific disagreement the author has with the OPC?

Until you can tell us this, all you're saying is that some guy doesn't like the OPC.

Alert the media.

3,243 posted on 09/09/2010 11:16:34 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: metmom; OpusatFR
While the consecrated bread ceases to be bread and the consecrated wine ceases to be wine, they maintain their original appearances. No visible change can be detected in the consecrated elements. No microscope, no matter how fine, will show the slightest alteration. What is on the paten will appear to be plain bread. What is in the chalice will appear to be plain wine.

In the Middle Ages the change effected at Consecration was as: Any created thing has two.aspects, its substance and its appearance. The substance is what the thing is in and of itself, internally, deep down inside. Its appearance is what can be perceived by our five senses and, thus, what can be perceived by scientific instruments.

When the bread and wine are consecrated, their appearances remain exactly the same as before, but their substances change. The appearance of bread and wine remain but they are now Christ's body and blood.

Science can examine only a thing's appearances. If they do not change, science will detect no change. This means that the unbeliever who scoffs at the Eucharist because he sees nothing altered under the microscope just does not understand what we say is going on. The Church teaches that the substance of the bread and the substance of the wine are altered, and substance is something that no microscope can perceive.
3,244 posted on 09/09/2010 11:35:21 PM PDT by Cronos (A little learning is a dangerous thing; drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring: Alexander P)
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To: 1000 silverlings

oh, your grouping worships Chinese godlings. No doubt. With just as much proof as your trinity in four parts...


3,245 posted on 09/09/2010 11:36:24 PM PDT by Cronos (A little learning is a dangerous thing; drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring: Alexander P)
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To: 1000 silverlings; Religion Moderator
I can name call with the best of you, yet I choose not to

Actually, already have chosen to do so and have already done it with that post about the Trinity in four parts.
3,246 posted on 09/09/2010 11:39:57 PM PDT by Cronos (A little learning is a dangerous thing; drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring: Alexander P)
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To: Quix

Thank you FRiend and Bro for the ping. May God preserve you in every way and guide you each step.

= = =
You said, ‘ The angst and battles about that have been waged internally and with others over enough years and emphatically enough with God—there’s no longer any doubt as to my mandate. It is TO BE ME in all that entails vis a vis my writing. ‘
= = =
Having seen you in REAL TIME, I concur, your battles are over and done with and God mandated that you be who you are, be who He made you to be, you do it well. Keep on keeping on, you who plays for an Audience of One.


3,247 posted on 09/09/2010 11:40:19 PM PDT by Joya
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To: Iscool; roamer_1
The pastor sleeps in on Saturday...I have to wait til Sunday... "to celebrate"

Ok, but roamer says that that is wrong (not the pastor sleeping :), but the celebrating on Sunday. If you agree with him, why do you not change it then?
3,248 posted on 09/09/2010 11:41:34 PM PDT by Cronos (A little learning is a dangerous thing; drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring: Alexander P)
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To: metmom; OLD REGGIE
Metmom: No, I don’t deny the Trinity nor the divinity of Christ.

I didn't believe you did, this was for our Unitarian friend here who is arguing Christian doctrine. Why would you, Metmom, then consider Unitarians as Protestants if they deny the Trinity?
3,249 posted on 09/09/2010 11:45:39 PM PDT by Cronos (A little learning is a dangerous thing; drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring: Alexander P)
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To: bronx2; metmom

That’s the thing — there are no Lutherans or Anglicans or Methodists on this thread. There are no Southern Baptists or indeed any mainstream Protestant grouping. I don’t know which group metmom belongs to, so she may be the exception, but besides this, the thread (like all anti-Catholic threads) is populated with those who beleive in Unitarianism, in FourSquare cultism, everything except mere Christianity.


3,250 posted on 09/09/2010 11:54:34 PM PDT by Cronos (A little learning is a dangerous thing; drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring: Alexander P)
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To: Quix

“Different ‘races’ of them may play a GOOD-COP/BAD-COP ROLE wherein one race is cast as conquering invaders and a different race or set of race are cast as protectors/defenders of earth and humans. It will be a sham—the end goal is to coerce the citizens into a tyrannical global government.”


3,251 posted on 09/09/2010 11:55:23 PM PDT by Cronos (A little learning is a dangerous thing; drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring: Alexander P)
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To: Quix

“They are behind the environmental push having convinced the globalist elites that if they do not reduce the world’s population down to 200 million by force ASAP, humans and the planet will not survive as a viable sphere for life.”


3,252 posted on 09/09/2010 11:55:41 PM PDT by Cronos (A little learning is a dangerous thing; drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring: Alexander P)
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To: Quix
He is, BTW, A ROMAN CATHOLIC.

ROTFLOLOLOLOL!!!

Maybe now they'll believe him.

3,253 posted on 09/09/2010 11:59:30 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Quix

Count it all for joy.


3,254 posted on 09/10/2010 12:00:08 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Quix; metmom; bkaycee; wmfights; presently no screen name; Iscool
quix: 1. demons were fallen angels who lost their bodies in Noah’s flood.

2. Fallen angels who fell with satan but did not lose their bodies are pretending to be citizens of distant planets as ET’s


ok -- discombobulated angels now demons pretending to be aliens -- are these the little green aliens or the gray ones?
3,255 posted on 09/10/2010 12:01:03 AM PDT by Cronos (A little learning is a dangerous thing; drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring: Alexander P)
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To: Quix; metmom; bkaycee; wmfights; presently no screen name; Iscool; MarkBsnr; Mad Dawg; ...
quix: 6. I believe that they are part and parcel of the Biblical END TIMES GREAT DECEPTION BECAUSE they will be extremely persuasive about “creating man,” bioengineering all the religious greats of history—FOR SOCIAL ENGINEERING PURPOSES—including Jesus—performing miracles through their technologies—and purportedly having very convincing 3D holographic “histories” “proving” such.

WHAT?? You, QUix believe that aliens are / were "bioengineering all the religious greats of history—FOR SOCIAL ENGINEERING PURPOSES—including Jesus"

I wonder if Gamecock, the_conscience, Old REggie, Dr. eckleburg; 1000 silverlings, caww, Cvengr, bkaycee, metmom, rnmomof7 etc. all beleive in the same thing you do that you believe Jesus was bio-engineered by aliens...

No real Christian believes in this mumbo-jumbo

No Protestant believes in this mumbo-jumbo

Hence I must conclude that when QUix says he speaks for all "Proddys", the term "Proddy" is not synonymous with Christian Protestants but refers to New-Agers and Unitarians and others.
3,256 posted on 09/10/2010 12:11:23 AM PDT by Cronos (A little learning is a dangerous thing; drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring: Alexander P)
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To: MarkBsnr; Quix
Quix: IT IS AN ASSIGNMENT FROM THE LORD that I’ve often offered up to Him and He has repeatedly given it back to me. It is part of my Watchman duties.


3,257 posted on 09/10/2010 12:13:53 AM PDT by Cronos (A little learning is a dangerous thing; drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring: Alexander P)
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To: metmom

yes — do you believe demons are dead and come back as zombies pretending to be aliens from outer space? I don’t think you do


3,258 posted on 09/10/2010 12:26:33 AM PDT by Cronos (A little learning is a dangerous thing; drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring: Alexander P)
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To: Quix; metmom; Dr. Eckleburg; bkaycee
Some more from quix:

There are verified cases where the pregnant woman visited her OBGYN say on Tuesday. Everything was fine with the baby, ultra sound, the whole checkup.

Tuesday night the woman is abducted and remembers parts of it, including that her baby is taken from her womb at the end of the first trimester.

Wednesday, she goes back to the OBGYN and there is no baby in the womb.

3,259 posted on 09/10/2010 12:31:40 AM PDT by Cronos (A little learning is a dangerous thing; drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring: Alexander P)
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To: Cronos
Thanks for posting that diagram of the Presbyterian church. I really enjoy it.

As far as your book goes, when you can figure out what the guy is talking about so you can know what you're talking about, let us know.

3,260 posted on 09/10/2010 12:31:51 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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