Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
For this statement to be more than idle trouble-making, since it is a response to a statements about non-Catholics here on this thread, you must intend to be describing some Catholics on this thread.
On what basis do you make this judgment? What has been said by Catholics on this or other threads that would justify the accusations that some here believe in a quaternity or that Mary "does all the work of Christ"?
In justification of certain sayings, some have said, "If the shoe fits wear it." What 'excuses' these incidents is the "basically." The most outrageous things continue to be said, but up to now few get yanked.
But when outrage is met with outrage, the second victim is suddenly, guess what, outraged.
I think the vast majority of posts are useless trash. I do not believe that they are posted with an eye to discourse but rather with the intention to cause pain. Some have admitted that that is there intention.
So there's dishing it out, and there's taking it. Those who dish it out look silly when they complain when they have to take it.
Do you REALLY think that there are Catholics here on FR who worship what is illiterately being called a "quadalogy" and that Mary Suffered as much as or more than Jesus and therefore worked the greater atonement?
If so, on what basis. If not, why would we be expected to keep our discourse within the bounds of decency when such things are said of us?
What do you mean by "substance"? I'm suspecting not what we mean.
All you guys do is repeat the heresy that you have been taught...Study the scriptures for a change before you pose these crazy questions...
I might as well say "study philosophy before you throw words like "substance" around, without some explanatory qualifiers.
I showed you the scripture that our bodies will change from terrestrial to celestial...Spiritual bodies...Doesn't that sink in or do you need an interpreter???
You may think I am appealing to some intellectual elite or whatever. I understood (or misunderstood) you to be mentioning the Pauline teaching on the resurrection body's being different from the bodies we currently endure. I'm fine with that.
But it seemed that you were saying Jesus in heaven was not human any longer. Is that what you were saying?
Just going for clarification here.
I think that Dr. Timothy Leary would approve of certain posters. Most people think of conspiracies as the Republicans or bankers or the Vatican or the city council or even the military industrial complex. Some people go all out and imagine the that entire universe is out to get them. Maybe even the multiverse, if one universe is insufficient for their paranoia. Or attention-getting, whichever is dominant this hour...
Accept Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior
You know, if you'd written "I do not believe you are a good Christian" or "a sane Christian" or even a whole host of various other things I'd have just scrolled on down.
I think that's over the top.
Love your points. LOL.
QUITE SO.
I quibble a lot about statements ostensibly of fact (as opposed to satire etc.) that are the opposite of fact.
However, even that is mostly fine with me . . . people are not as ignorant as some posters seem to think they are. The collective of the average persons on the street can be amazingly wise.
If you believe that Jesus was bioengineered by UFOs, and that UFOs are inherently evil, then I don't think that there is any danger of repentence.
I didn't realize you'd surveyed the whole 2.x billion.
PLEASE POST THE STATS!
I realize that RC's consider retractions and apologies to be anathema . . . so I won't hold my breath on those scores! LOL.
UFOlogy at its best. I never realized that Jesus was bioengineered by UFOs. Perhaps we Catholics are wrong about things...
I do not believe that you are a Christian.
I guess that’s consistent with the Vatican
!!!!TRADITION!!!!
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all manner of false dogma, Rubberized Bible heresies, blasphemies, idolatries, Mary fantasies etc.
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I believe in Jesus and Jesus alone, the Bible and the Bride of Christ not UFOs, prideful interpretation of scripture and my own sinful disposition which is saved only by the Blood of Jesus. Science fiction does not interest me. It is a false God. Trust in Jesus as your personal savior.
INDEED.
3066 being a good example of that.
Incredible. The duplicity of the hollow sanctimony could allow another haul of iron from the irony sufficient to add several more lanes on the QE2 sized pontoons on the pontoon bridge from San Diego to Sydney.
Please excuse me while I get my barf bucket.
Some assertions are too much even for my pretty durable constitution.
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