Intended Catholic Dictatorship

Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

[Hank Kerchief]

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)

[Quix]

LOL.

[Mad Dawg]

I don’t think we can expect too much reason. I don’t see how a rule can be crafted that will make personal comments impossible without making reasonable discourse also impossible.

I think we have to tolerate:
A) I’m a Catholic.
B) All Catholics are stupid preverted reprobates.

Or the RM ends up having to make too many judgment calls.

The use of “I statements,” while usually a good idea, is not going to be effective. “I think you’re a moron,” is technically an “I statement” but is about as personal as it gets.

“I think that’s a moronic argument,” is marginally better, but is so rarely followed by a good analysis of the argument that it’s not much less insulting.

I would tend to pull “I think you’re a moron,” and to tolerate “I think that’s a moronic argument.”

I think this may be a moronic post.

[Quix]

Probably not necessary. It looks like the opposition has gone off to dip their thumbs in honey and pout off the stage for once.

[Quix]

Now, now.

You know, I THINK,

that at least some of us Proddys, probably most if not all, with rare exceptions,

do NOT think ALL RC’s are goobers or whatever . . . just those with thin skins and rabidly irrational fantasies flung about in the shrillest of terms.

[Cronos]

You didn't actually complete the text -- it's necessary when you read posts as well as newspapers to go beyond the headlines. The post was about the pent-c-coastal neo-Montanist pastor William Branham who denied the Trinity and taught it was a demonic doctrine believed only by those of the whore Babylon false church and yet he is still revered as a true prophet by almost every major Pentecostal and Charismatic ministry (who are Trinitarian). Even though he believed in numerology and taught that God had made the Great Pyramid - he is still accepted as a true prophet. Even though many of his prophecies regarding future events did not come to pass - he is still regarded as a true prophet. Even though the majority of his teachings are totally in error and diametrically opposed to the plain teaching of Scripture, he is still held up as God's true prophet.

William Branham's heretical theology:

1. God's Word consists of the zodiac, Egyptian pyramids and scripture.
2. Doctrine of trinity is considered demonic
3. The claim that he was Elijah the prophet

Unless you agree with him. Do you?

[Cronos]

So, the Athanasian Creed nicely encapsulates Christian belief. I guess you as a Baptist agree to it’s points, right?

[OLD REGGIE]

Father Pat the Singing/Healing Priest

[Religion Moderator]

On my watch, spiritual maturity will not be a prerequisite for posting on an “open” Religion Forum thread.

[Quix]

What a riot.

That tool on the left of the cross looks like a tool . . . I forget the term . . . to castrate calves.

???

[Cronos]

So now Iscool presumes to be better than +Athanasias!

31. God of the substance of the Father, begotten before the worlds; and man of substance of His mother, born in the world

I'll ask you your question "scripture where it says it no longer was the same substance"? --> Jesus' flesh was glorified, yet it was the same, hence +Thomas being able to poke his fingers in the wounds.

Iscool: Jesus had a a terrestrisl body...Jesus now has a celestial body...A spiritual body...Different body altogether...

And where did you get this that Jesus discarded His human body? Why was there an empty tomb then?

[Religion Moderator]

Yes. And LOL.

[Cronos]

Circumcision was ended for Gentiles by the council of Jerusalem at the urgings of +Paul

[Cronos]

And if I am debating with you and then turn around and say Cvengr’s group are white-hanky worshippers of a monkey god and are not Christians. Is that personal or not? (Of course it’s false — I may believe that your beliefs are flawed, but you are Christian, unlike the Unitarians and others on this thread)

[sitetest]

I guess “spiritual” decency is out, too.

Unless one is “making it personal.”

[Quix]

It’s fascinating how some of the rabid clique folks are forever deepening the meaning of relentless bitterness—seemingly without a shred of insight about doing so.

[Religion Moderator]

Decency is in the eye of the beholder. To some Muslims, a woman not wearing a burka is indecent.

I do care about potty language because, on the Religion Forum, even the use of a mild reference will be taken as a permit to use a stronger one and on and on. That is spiritual childishness, but even the most immature can say what he believes or does not believe on an "open" Religion Forum thread.

[OLD REGGIE]

Dear Religion Moderator,

I think that the proposed modifications are a bad idea.

I would write a long post explaining why, but my sense is that it would be a waste of time. I have no sense that you're really paying attention.

I don't know why you resist reason, but those are your actions.

Your new rules will make the posting climate here worse. They exacerbate the anti-Catholic bias in the rules.

They shelter even more bad behavior by reducing further the "cost" for such behavior.

But the rules are already pretty bad, and this doesn't make them all that much worse.

sitetest

Two things come to mind:

And... you chased "presently no screen name" for being too thin skinned.

Is their a constant complainer category too?

[sitetest]

Dear Religion Moderator,

“Decency is in the eye of the beholder.”

These are the sorts of things I expect liberals to tell me. You know, “it's all relative.” “There are no moral absolutes.” And so on.

It reminds me of pro-aborts, “Not everyone thinks it's a baby.”

* sigh *

sitetest

[Natural Law]

While the window is still open can we review the use of pejoratives and offensive terms? Terms like Papist, Romanist, RC, Snake Handlers, Bible Thumpers, Jesus Freaks, O-PeCkers, Dunkers, Hebes, Kikes, Christ Killers, etc, that are clearly, historically, and demonstrably offensive have no place in an Religion Forum.

[Quix]

NOW NOW!

You should remember . . .

STATION #2 OF THE STATIONS OF THE WHITE HANKY IS:

2.THE BLACK/WHITE ICON OF DUPLICITY, OF THE DOUBLE STANDARD DANCE