Intended Catholic Dictatorship

Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

[Hank Kerchief]

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)

[OLD REGGIE]

"...and so on and sew forth

"Oh what a tangled web we weave, When first we practise to deceive!" (Sir Walter Scott)

[wmfights]

Odd how I use the term Protestant and you switch to Evangelical. I would have to say that the vast majority of Protestants would not call themselves and could not be described as Evangelicals in the American sense.

I don't use the term protestant because it has always been meant as a slur and it is not descriptive of all the Christian churches that have never been under the control of the RCC. Why other Evangelicals use the term is for them to answer.

Would you care to explain how High Church Anglicans and Southern Baptists have "unified" beliefs about the Eucharist or Baptism?

No, because it is irrelevant to the answer I gave you. We share a common belief in The Gospel that is what unities us in the Body of Christ.

[Quix]

(To both posts!)

[D-fendr]

Thank you! A straight answer.

But, alas, I just read: you’re not Protestant.

Rats, doesn’t count. No donuts for you.

:)

[Pyro7480]

So you don’t read anything else other than the Bible? What are you doing here on FR then? ;-)

[sitetest]

Thanks for proving my point. Much appreciated.

[1000 silverlings]

you’re a treasure, I bet people like to see you coming

[1000 silverlings]

I used to, but now I see I just wasted my time

[sitetest]

“you’re a treasure, I bet people like to see you coming”

Mysteriously, yes, they do.

Not so mysteriously when I come bearing donuts.

[1000 silverlings]

shuckers

[wmfights]

Sacred space.

GOD let the Temple be destroyed. A church is no more sacred than a backroom where a bunch of believers are praying.

[1000 silverlings]

lol, arachne

[presently no screen name]

I’ll betcha dollars to donuts you never get a straight answer

Straight answer? Are you denying that God's Word is the answer?

Meditate on this....'Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leads to life, and few there be that find it".

[1000 silverlings]

yes, and no one can “create “ a sacred space, only God can

[wmfights]

Does the Gospel include that observing the Lord's Day is a grievous violation of His commandments?

If you know The Gospel you don't have to ask.

[Quix]

Your point . . .

What . . . that horses

or

horse laughs are demonized?

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BTW, I didn’t think you could resist making it

MORE POINTEDLY PERSONAL!

Congrats on consistency,

I guess.

[wmfights]

2For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him

It's interesting how we get caught up in appearances at the same time we are talking about buildings and whether it's important for them to be ornate.

[Cronos]

1. The post was directed at "presently no screen name", not you as pnsm was debating the entire Pentecosatl mumbling in tongues
2. Yes, speaking in tongues in Acts is clearly speaking in a foreign language... not random garglings that the various Pente-c-astals do
3. Whichever the unknown languages, in the Gospel they were always languages that exist, not random garblings that we see in the Pentec-oastal meetings

THAT was the point -- which you would see if you had read the posts.

[D-fendr]

Part of the difference is you, unlike your Anglican fellow, do not believe in the Real Presence. If Jesus came to your house would you offer Him your best or tell him you're saving it for another occasion or donating it to the poor?

A church is no more sacred than a backroom where a bunch of believers are praying.

I hear more (Protestant-like) minimalism in this statement. To me it is like turning your back on all that God offers us, no matter how much we wrap it up in pride.

[sitetest]

Dear presently no screen name,

All demons are capable of quoting the Bible.

That doesn't mean that they haven't abused it.

I think that D-fendr asked a pretty straight-up, simple question. You could answer, “yes,” or “no,” or something like, “here's why it doesn't matter.”

Instead, you obfuscate, and then give the appearance of trying to (abusively) hide behind the Bible.

D-fendr, you may owe me a dozen donuts. A mixed selection would be nice. But no crullers. I'm just not all that crazy about crullers.

Thanks,

sitetest