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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
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To: stfassisi

NONSENSE.

Did Mother Theresa write those startling things, or not?


1,541 posted on 09/05/2010 9:32:34 PM PDT by Quix (C Bosses plans: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: narses
Here's the title:

http://www.amazon.com/Ten-Meditations-Mysteries-Rosary-Ferraro/dp/0819801577/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1272938246&sr=1-2

And it carries the official sanctions of:

ni•hil ob•stat
n.
1. Roman Catholic Church An attestation by a church censor that a book contains nothing damaging to faith or morals.
2. Official approval, especially of an artistic work.

WITH RICHARD CARDINAL CUSHING’S IMPRIMATUR

Let me track down the brief portion of quotes upthread . . .

Here they are:

However, as we've seen through a variety of sources--a pile of them in Ferraro's manual about the Rosary--the Roman Catholic et al/Vatican Edifice disagrees with a lot of the claims of RC's hereon to the contrary.

p.32
.
[Quixicated emphases below]
Mary is crowned Queen of heaven and earth, dispenser of all graces . . .

p32
4 - She became Queen of Purgatory, where she exercises her power as mediatrix in behalf of these suffering souls.

5 - She became Queen of us sinners, to assist us through the dangers of this life and to help us in difficulties.

6 - She became the ruler of hell, that trembles at her slightest gaze and is defeated by her power.

"Just as a rock extracted from earth will precipitate into the abyss, so will man, left without Mary's help, quickly slide toward hell." --Richard of St Victor

p37
Sacred Heart of Jesus, Thy kingdom come; Thy kingdom come through Mary! --Partial Indulgence

p41
"Mary is the tree of life to those who grasp her, and he is happy who hold her fast." --Prov. 3:18

p43
1 - "Hail Mary, beloved daughter of the Father, Mother of the Divine Son, Spouse of the Holy Spirit, complement of the most august Trinity!"

p45
6 - To her was granted grace greater than that conferred upon all others, 'that she might vanquish sin in every respect.'
.
[Qx: I guess Christ's vanquishing sin was unnecessary--or ineffectual without Mary's assistance?]

p46
7 - "Mary is the dawn of God because, just as the dawn marks the end of darkness and the beginning of day, so Mary indicates the end of vices and the beginning of virtue."
.
[Qx: I guess Christ's conquering on The Cross and HIS conquering trip to hell were unncessary?]

9 - God loved Mary so much that He gave her the keys to His heart. 'No one can go to God without Mary drawing him.'
.
[Qx: I guess Holy Spirit has been relegated to a 'Walter Mitty' role as spouse of Mary? That's SOME POWER to cancel & take over HOLY SPIRIT'S role to draw men to God!]

p47
4 - "Mary, trusting in the word of the angel, destroyed the sin Eve committed by trusting in the serpent.'
.
[Qx: Evidently, she beat Christ to the job of vanquishing sin!]

5 - "She desired the safety of everyone, went in search of it, and obtained it; it was also through her that this salvation was wrought."
.
[QX: What an unnecessary waste of precious Blood and suffering on THE CROSS!!!/sar]

p47
10 - "As Noah's Ark saved all the animals that entered it, so Mary saves all the souls that entrust themselves to her care."

p50
8 - "If she were not so holy as she is, how could God appoint her to be the ladder of Paradise, the advocate of the world, meatrix between HIm and us?"

p50
4 - "By becoming Mother of God, Mary belongs to the order of hypostatic union; hence she participates IN the infinite sanctity of God."

1,542 posted on 09/05/2010 9:33:26 PM PDT by Quix (C Bosses plans: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: narses

BEARING FALSE WITNESS AGAIN, I SEE!

HINT:

IT IS *NOT* A FRUIT OF HOLY SPIRIT TO BEAR FALSE WITNESS.


1,543 posted on 09/05/2010 9:34:16 PM PDT by Quix (C Bosses plans: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Quix; Belteshazzar

For a millisecond, let’s put down our disputes and magnify the Lord.

May we be so scattered in our conceits that we become lowly. And when we are lowly, let us rejoice that He lifts us up.

Great is the Lord, and greatly to be praised. There is no end to His greatness!

And, Lord, if we may dare to contradict the words of the Psalmist, prosper not our handiwork, but yours in us, who without you are nothing but in you may one day see the joy and peace and end of every longing heart.


1,544 posted on 09/05/2010 9:38:09 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg

You may have noted I took no part in castigating M Theresa in such harsh ways.

I’ve long been impressed by her servanthood and humility as well as her pluck and candor.

However, I find her struggles with doubts about God’s existence, Heaven’s existence to be startling and disturbing. And extremely sad.

And it seems to me, that somehow, THE INSTITUTION failed her miserably in perhaps a list of ways.


1,545 posted on 09/05/2010 9:39:43 PM PDT by Quix (C Bosses plans: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Spiff

I understand your perspective.

And while I’d change many things about the “dialogue” if I could, I think it is as good as possible given all the givens.

Changing such would mean heavy handedness beyond reason and beyond what’s fitting.

If folks are too thin-skinned to handle such well and redemptively, they should avoid such threads altogether.


1,546 posted on 09/05/2010 9:41:29 PM PDT by Quix (C Bosses plans: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: narses

And yet again . . .

not entirely accurate, true.


1,547 posted on 09/05/2010 9:42:46 PM PDT by Quix (C Bosses plans: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Mad Dawg

May we be so scattered in our conceits that we become lowly. And when we are lowly, let us rejoice that He lifts us up.

Great is the Lord, and greatly to be praised. There is no end to His greatness!

And, Lord, if we may dare to contradict the words of the Psalmist, prosper not our handiwork, but yours in us, who without you are nothing but in you may one day see the joy and peace and end of every longing heart.


AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

THX THX.


1,548 posted on 09/05/2010 9:44:17 PM PDT by Quix (C Bosses plans: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Quix
However, I find her struggles with doubts about God’s existence, Heaven’s existence to be startling and disturbing. And extremely sad.

And it seems to me, that somehow, THE INSTITUTION failed her miserably in perhaps a list of ways.

No, the institution succeeded gloriously! She entered into the suffering of our Lord. When I am well and rested, I long also to contend with the enemy as Jesus did, to be permitted for a moment or a decade to share with Him in His glorious battle.

The Institution did well. It kept out of God's way.

1,549 posted on 09/05/2010 9:45:27 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg; RnMomof7; Quix; Legatus; Natural Law; betty boop; Cronos; 1000 silverlings; ...
No one will remember the words we spoke, the arguments we wrote in our petty and mendacious disputes.

To the contrary:

But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. – Matt 12:36

No doubt Mother Teresa has suffered cruel mocking, but so did Christ.

Likewise also the chief priests mocking [him], with the scribes and elders, said, He saved others; himself he cannot save. If he be the King of Israel, let him now come down from the cross, and we will believe him. He trusted in God; let him deliver him now, if he will have him: for he said, I am the Son of God. - Matthew 27:41-43

If she could speak to you right now, I believe she would tell you to count it all joy.

Blessed are ye, when [men] shall revile you, and persecute [you], and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great [is] your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.- Matthew 5:11-12

And again,

For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with [him], that we may be also glorified together. – Romans 8:15-17

I doubt very many modern day Christians would have survived the circumstances of the early church. Modern Christians complain like it is the end of the world when they get their feelings hurt because someone disapproves of them, inconveniences them or makes fun of them or what they hold sacred.

The early Christians didn't have all the Scriptures, couldn't assemble openly, weren't respected, faced angry mobs or death by stoning or being fed to lions or losing everything. They were hated by their governments and hunted. But they knew they had everything they would ever need in Christ Jesus The Lord.

But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.

Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord, And cast [him] out of the city, and stoned [him]: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man's feet, whose name was Saul.

And they stoned Stephen, calling upon [God], and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit. And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep. - Acts 7:55-60

God’s Name is I AM.

1,550 posted on 09/05/2010 9:45:44 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Mad Dawg

Would like to understand better, when it’s convenient, how you see it that the institution did not let her down.

Blessings. Good sleep to you.


1,551 posted on 09/05/2010 9:49:20 PM PDT by Quix (C Bosses plans: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Alamo-Girl

EXCELLENT POINTS. I THOROUGHLY AGREE.
THX THX.


1,552 posted on 09/05/2010 9:49:43 PM PDT by Quix (C Bosses plans: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Quix; All
Zzzzz

The Psalmist says, He gives to His beloved sleep.

Lord, whether I watch or sleep may I rest in your love, the love which promises that you will fight for me and I have only to keep still.

Lord, I am afflicted and so sinful that even keeping still is beyond me. Do you be still while I toss and turn, and let your stillness and my unease redound to my salvation and that of all whom You love,
You who live and reign at the still and resting point of all that is good, with the Father and the Holy Spirit, in glory everlasting.

1,553 posted on 09/05/2010 9:52:04 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

WELL PRAYED AND PUT.

THX


1,554 posted on 09/05/2010 9:53:25 PM PDT by Quix (C Bosses plans: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Quix

Thank you for your encouragement, dear brother in Christ!


1,555 posted on 09/05/2010 9:59:02 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Mad Dawg

I understand.

However, I am not ashamed to defend my saintly sister in Christ, Mother Teresa of Calcutta.

Nor am I ashamed to say that I deplore her words, her writings and her “dark night” being twisted out of context and emptied of truth.

She took up her Cross and followed Him, the Cross designed for her by Him, the Cross of sharing His cry—which He gave for all who know the darkness of living without Him—”My God, my God, why have you abandoned me”. That cry, that “darkness of soul”, He brought to redemption on the Cross.
She learned from the Master to share that part of the Cross with Him. It was in this that she was able to “do all things in Him who strengthened her”.

In this life we can never fully plumb the depths of the mysteries of the Cross and of the Sacred Scriptures. We see only darkly through a mirror now, but the glory that awaits us will reveal all that is hidden, and we will walk out of darkness into his own marvelous light.

Yes, we can fall at times and become like that which we dislike. Nevertheless, we are called to defend what we know to be goodness, truth and beauty—however awkwardly we may do it.


1,556 posted on 09/05/2010 10:02:07 PM PDT by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words: "It's too late"))
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To: Quix


1,557 posted on 09/05/2010 10:06:59 PM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: narses
Here's the title:

http://www.amazon.com/Ten-Meditations-Mysteries-Rosary-Ferraro/dp/0819801577/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1272938246&sr=1-2

And it carries the official sanctions of:

ni•hil ob•stat
n.
1. Roman Catholic Church An attestation by a church censor that a book contains nothing damaging to faith or morals.
2. Official approval, especially of an artistic work.

WITH RICHARD CARDINAL CUSHING’S IMPRIMATUR

Let me track down the brief portion of quotes upthread . . .

Here they are:

However, as we've seen through a variety of sources--a pile of them in Ferraro's manual about the Rosary--the Roman Catholic et al/Vatican Edifice disagrees with a lot of the claims of RC's hereon to the contrary.

p.32
.
[Quixicated emphases below]
Mary is crowned Queen of heaven and earth, dispenser of all graces . . .

p32
4 - She became Queen of Purgatory, where she exercises her power as mediatrix in behalf of these suffering souls.

5 - She became Queen of us sinners, to assist us through the dangers of this life and to help us in difficulties.

6 - She became the ruler of hell, that trembles at her slightest gaze and is defeated by her power.

"Just as a rock extracted from earth will precipitate into the abyss, so will man, left without Mary's help, quickly slide toward hell." --Richard of St Victor

p37
Sacred Heart of Jesus, Thy kingdom come; Thy kingdom come through Mary! --Partial Indulgence

p41
"Mary is the tree of life to those who grasp her, and he is happy who hold her fast." --Prov. 3:18

p43
1 - "Hail Mary, beloved daughter of the Father, Mother of the Divine Son, Spouse of the Holy Spirit, complement of the most august Trinity!"

p45
6 - To her was granted grace greater than that conferred upon all others, 'that she might vanquish sin in every respect.'
.
[Qx: I guess Christ's vanquishing sin was unnecessary--or ineffectual without Mary's assistance?]

p46
7 - "Mary is the dawn of God because, just as the dawn marks the end of darkness and the beginning of day, so Mary indicates the end of vices and the beginning of virtue."
.
[Qx: I guess Christ's conquering on The Cross and HIS conquering trip to hell were unncessary?]

9 - God loved Mary so much that He gave her the keys to His heart. 'No one can go to God without Mary drawing him.'
.
[Qx: I guess Holy Spirit has been relegated to a 'Walter Mitty' role as spouse of Mary? That's SOME POWER to cancel & take over HOLY SPIRIT'S role to draw men to God!]

p47
4 - "Mary, trusting in the word of the angel, destroyed the sin Eve committed by trusting in the serpent.'
.
[Qx: Evidently, she beat Christ to the job of vanquishing sin!]

5 - "She desired the safety of everyone, went in search of it, and obtained it; it was also through her that this salvation was wrought."
.
[QX: What an unnecessary waste of precious Blood and suffering on THE CROSS!!!/sar]

p47
10 - "As Noah's Ark saved all the animals that entered it, so Mary saves all the souls that entrust themselves to her care."

p50
8 - "If she were not so holy as she is, how could God appoint her to be the ladder of Paradise, the advocate of the world, meatrix between HIm and us?"

p50
4 - "By becoming Mother of God, Mary belongs to the order of hypostatic union; hence she participates IN the infinite sanctity of God."

1,558 posted on 09/05/2010 10:23:39 PM PDT by Quix (C Bosses plans: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: narses
There is no evidence that the citations are from the book or that it bears nihil obstat. There isn't any indication that there is even an understanding of the concept.
1,559 posted on 09/05/2010 10:44:21 PM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: Natural Law; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...

GROPE GROPE GROPE!

SHEESH!

BEARING FALSE WITNESS YET AGAIN.

I HAVE THE BOOK.

I don’t recall if I purchased it directly from

THE DAUGHTERS OF ST PAUL PRESS

or via Amazon.

Perhaps I can scan some pages and the title etc. pages in and host them on a site that allows hotlinking.

It would be interesting to see y’all eat such words.

YET AGAIN.

What a piece of work.


1,560 posted on 09/05/2010 10:52:06 PM PDT by Quix (C Bosses plans: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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