Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
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Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
Here's one...How many do you want???
1Co 5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
This fella's sin got his flesh turned over to Satan...Just like Job...But he did not lose his salvation...
It's amazing how you are so consistantly proven wrong but you just keep on motivatin' thru the fog
It was pretty nasty. There's that alleged Gandhi quote: "I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." He probably never said it... but I do. If Christianity was dependent upon Christians it would have collapsed a long time ago, a bigger bunch of incompetent, shrill, backbiting, nasty, devious, unChristlike morons are hardly imaginable. Frankly, we stink on ice.
“The law of the LORD [is] perfect, converting the soul:
the testimony of the LORD [is] sure making wise the simple.”
(Ps. 19:7) AV
AMEN!
Dear MarySecretary used to say that her husband was stunned when he came to the blessed understanding that his sins have been forgiven, something his previous Roman Catholic faith did not tell him. He said he stopped fearing he wasn't good enough when he realized he was saved by Christ's righteousness and not his own.
"Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin." -- Romans 4:7
And as you say, this knowledge of the changed heart compels men to obey God and to do good works in His name gratefully and joyfully. Good for the sake of goodness, and not for what it will get us.
"Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God." -- Romans 8:21
Rome has no concept of the "liberty" given to the children of God and therefore it's still shackled to the law which no man but Christ can fulfill. Rome must disparage and dismiss Paul because he taught the Gospel of grace. And Rome doesn't know what grace is - the unmerited favor of God.
My husband says Roman Catholicism is a property management conglomeration masquerading as a world religion. That about sums it up.
“Would you like to know when the redact ions started and by whom?”
Please enlighten us as I’m certain you have an....ahem’...”interesting” answer.
I've forgotten whose theology is which, but if you're with the Reformed on this thread, isn't the belief that all your sins - past, present and future have already been forgiven?
Is this past, present and future inclusive?
How would this apply to Iscool's "we pray to God and ask for forgiveness every day
?" Different theologies on this?
“Frankly, we stink on ice.”
So which of your practices, beliefs, doctrines, opinions, rituals, rites, traditions, etc., will you abandon to get rid the stench?
I think it was an ecumenical criticism.
;)
We say "our children have been fed." But they're still hungry tomorrow when they eat breakfast, right?
I don't see any contradiction in editor-surveyor's comments, nor in Paul's teaching. Sanctification has taken place. Christ has begun a good work in us. It is an on-going refinement by the Holy Spirit within us. There is a point in our lives where sanctification begins. It is at the moment the Holy Spirit reveals to us by His word the truth of what God has done for us through the sacrifice of His Son, Jesus Christ, on our behalf.
God does indeed destroy the kingdom of sin in us. But though it ceases to reign, it continues to dwell in us... His Spirit will ever form us anew to be better and better, that we may walk to the end in newness of life." -- John Calvin. "Christ by His Spirit does not renew us at once, or in an instant, but He continues our renovation throughout life...
Paul is not God.
How do you know that? You told us you don't know what God is.
All of the crypto-Protestant silliness that crept in over the last 50-60 years under the cover of aggiornamento, the whole of the "nouvelle theologie" and the "New Evangelization" can go pound sand too. The Pauline Missal, calendar, revised breviary and anyone who has ever favorably uttered the words "New Springtime" can all take a flying leap.
What, you thought I was going to punt?
Then an ecumenical answer would be in order. You want to have a go at it?
My ecumenical answer would be: “I agree.”
AMEN!
As we learn to concentrate on Christ alone, that blessed fact becomes clearer every day.
"what He has already done"
AMEN!
"Come and hear, all ye that fear God, and I will declare what he hath done for my soul." -- Psalm 66:16
Absolutely...But we have one thing the Catholics don't have, and apparently don't understand...We have conviction...
We sin against God...It's our human nature...But then we are remorseful...We are sorry...Even tho we know we will commit sin again...
It's the penalty for sin...The penalty for sin has been abolished...
I’ve posted many of the scripture verses that demolish your imaginary “purgatory,” and you simply ignore them.
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I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect that people who have supposedly been transformed should display some evidence of that actually occurring, either fully accomplished or in progress.
Man looks to man because men publicly profess their faith. If republican candidate A is no different than democrat candidate B then what’s the point of Republicanism? If Christian A is just as much a jerk as Heathen B then who is going to believe that Christian A has anything worth listening to? If our Republican candidate said “don’t pay attention to my voting record just look at the party platform” he’d have as much credibility as a Christian who says “don’t look at me, read the Bible”. Yeah? Well who’s gonna go to all that effort when the result is what we see on the religion forum?
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