Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
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Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
Well, we've been told that The Reformed® have determined that The Gospel® consists of a mere FIVE VERSES (Romans 10:9 and 1 Corinthians 15:1-4) and NONE of these verses are actually a part of what Christians have always considered the Gospels.
Once a person embraces such heresy, it's simple to believe whatever is necessary to avoid doing what our Lord actually instructed us to do.
Many of the Protestants I know don't believe in God, not really - they believe in the formula of what they call Christianity. To be fair, a whole lot of Catholics are the same. But at least the Catholics are held (to whatever extent) to a tangible authority. The Protestants are not. It is a free for all and they can do whatever they want because it is between them and their God and consider this a quote because I worked with an ordained minister who was carrying on a semi public affair and didn't like my commentary on it, so he said this. He believes it absolutely and so do many of the posters here. It is simply between them and their God. Lying, cheating, stealing, murdering, it doesn't matter what - it's between them and their God.
Another reason why we consider you guys not to be Christian. Our Father is not for Christians, eh? What about Our Mother - no, that would involve Mary. I know - Our second cousin twice removed on our mother's third husband's second stepmother's side? On alternate Thursdays...
I’ve suspected more than one of you habitually PWI
Correct. They are responsible, as your text acknowledge, for the post-Christian versions of the LXX (Septuagint), and all the problems associated with them. They were made by Jewish converts or observant Jews, on a commission with a doctrinal agenda.
In addition to that, the Syriac version of the LXX was a translation of the Greek copy and is at variance with the Peshitta Syrian translation of the Hebrew OT! In addition to that you have many Targums (or "translations") of the Hebrew OT in Aramaic.
It is no wonder that much of the LXX is unsettled when it comes to variations from the Masoretic Text and the Qumran documents. All of the three post-Christian versions of the LXX are at variance with each other as well as the pre-Christian (BC) version which exists only in fragments.
It is no secret that the AD commissioned versions were made in order to bring the Greek OT in closer agreement with the Hebrew (Phairsaical) version, the Masoretic Text. Such dleiberate change in itself represents intentional corruption of the holy script.
The persistence of Jewish Christians (Judaiziers) was nothing complimentary to the Christian world which sought to distance itself from these groups (they openly opposed Sunday as the Lord's Day, etc.). This is evident from the "anti-Semtic" homilies ("rants" some call them) by +John Chrysostom(so) against Judaizers.
Because a little voice in their head said so, or something to that effect.
We may get a post or two to that effect from the wingnuts, but the mainstays are savvy enough to keep their mouths shut and avoid this topic completely.
So does his servant Paul, but they don't know their own scriptures even though they read it all the time. I am sure what follow now will be "chapter and verse" request.
It doesn't matter even that Paul prayed for the dead. Evidently, that is not Scripture, or Paul was drunk or stoned or Catholic or something when he wrote that.
At present, its editor is quite liberal, and has given it an avant garde edge in order to increase its circulation and worldly influence.
Bottom line: It sure as hell is NOT a mouthpiece for the Pope, or "controlled" by him.
Very good. I've also got two of what seems to get removed from Reformed husbands and locked into a box for safekeeping. At least ex Catholic Reformed husbands...
He invented a whole lot of things.
And recorded them in what Peter calls scripture
Actually he calls them writings.
Paul ask the congregations to 'invent' their own prayers to pray for him...
But Jesus never ask anyone to rpay for anyone else, as far as I know. I guess Pual knew better. Seems to be the example set for the church... The 'Our Father' prayer was given to Jews...They were to pray for the Kingdom of Heaven to be established on earth....That is not the prayer of the church as can be seen by Paul's prayers...
Exactly! Let me see if I can explain how it all transpired:
1. The Gospels are for Jews only.
2. Saint Paul's epistles aren't part of Scripture.
3. They've never seemed all that fond of the Acts of the Apostles (the whole Church Council thing really interferes with YOPIOS).
4. The Epistle of Saint James is to be ignored for obvious reasons, same with both of Saint Peter's epistles.
5. The epistles of Saint John speak way too much about love and commandments, so they are overlooked.
6. If they have ever even considered reading the Epistle of Saint Jude it probably made them very uncomfortable.
7. Now, the anti-Catholics are typically very intellectually challenged, so Apocalypse Of Saint John is very confusing to them. But they keep reading until they come to this verse:
And on her forehead a name was written: A mystery; Babylon the great, the mother of the fornications, and the abominations of the earth. (Apocalypse 17:5)
Upon reading this they say, "A ha! This must be talking about the Catholic Church, we can base our 'religion' on this verse." They are still concerned that the word "Apocalypse" might be confused with "Apocrypha," so they change the name to Revelation and set out to attack Catholics.
The calvinist try and adopt Saint Augustine based on his error of double predestination,but they don't even realize that Augustine would be referring to a calvinists as reprobate because they are outside the church.
From Saint Augustine... "being in a state of exclusion from the Church, and severed from the body of unity and the bond of charity, you would be punished with eternal misery even though you were burned alive for Christ's name; for this is the apostle's declaration, "Though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profits me nothing."- Saint Augustine Letters 173.6
The Church ,of course rejected this part of Augustine teaching,not that he was wrong about Salvation outside the Church,but for not understanding the invincibly ignorant who love -and others who can be mystically saved through the church
Imagine that. The giants who formed this great country on principels of freedom of thinking, who were free thinkers and great believers, even if not tarditional, were not afraid to even question the existence of God, which is far more than I do. They couldn't imagine that God, who they believed gave us reason, would condmen us for exercising it.
Those Bibles that they believe in are sure getting very compact and easy to carry and even easier to memorize.
Once a person embraces such heresy, it's simple to believe whatever is necessary to avoid doing what our Lord actually instructed us to do.
This is the overriding and the only compelling reason that the Reformation succeeded. Even the promise of power for the German princelings could not have made it work except for this really neat principle.
lol. Explains so much, doesn’t it?
“Rome preaches another Gospel.”
Down the hatch. (Way down.)
I would not suspect metmom of that. Take it back.
yes, a drunkard cannot inherit the kingdom of heaven, yet they preach out of the same mouth they guzzle liquor with, and brag about it
lol. Smack down!
So does his servant Paul, but they don't know their own scriptures even though they read it all the time. I am sure what follow now will be "chapter and verse" request.
Yeah, this sola scriptura thing turns out to be more of a sola snippet thing for the Bible Believers (tm).
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