Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
Exactly. I hatched as a different animal. :)
Cheers!
Entrenched? Certainly, but nowhere near as widespread as reported.
Let me ask you, do you typically consider ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, the NYT, etc. to be reliable news sources when it comes to moral and political issues? If your answer is YES, then what on earth attracted you to FR; if your answer is no, why do you believe them when they are attacking the largest group in the world that opposes secularism?
Get the plank out of their eye then you will see clearly to get the plank out of others.
See, this is where you lost me. I, as an individual, do not abdicate my powers of observation because I'm a Catholic.
But, if YOU believe that membership in a religious group in which all of the members are free from sin is mandatory before judging other religious groups, WHY are you on this thread?
Most of Protestant "services" (at least those that are not liturgical) consits of a preacher babbling endlessly.
I hadn’t noticed this before . . . but now I wonder . . .
IT SEEMS TO ME that the
markedly INCREASED rabid finger frothing on the part of the usual rabid clique RC’s coincides with the
MARKEDLY INCREASED UFO sightings the last month or so.
I wonder if there’s a correlation in the spiritual realm with the darker forces driving both???
Has anyone else noticed such a correlation in timing?
Thanks for your reply. I agree as regards the historical events. Your answer leads to two questions.\:
Do you think God as described by the Church can be known outside of (or without the necessity of) belief in these historical events? Or is knowing and choosing to believe the historical events the only possible way to know God?
Do you think God as described by the Church is or can be revealed to individuals today, i.e., personally?
I wonder if there’s a correlation in the spiritual realm with the darker forces driving both???
Has anyone else noticed such a correlation in timing?
PARTICULARLY IN TERMS OF
THE HYPER IRRATIONALITY,
HYPER OBTUSENESS,
HYPER RAGE,
PLENTIFUL EVIDENCE OF GROSS STUPIDITY,
PLENTIFUL EVIDENCE OF CHILDISH IGNORANCE,
PLENTIFUL EVIDENCE OF TOO MUCH ALCOHOL,
PLENTIFUL EVIDENCE OF CONSUMING BITTERNESS,
PLENTIFUL EVIDENCE OF CONSUMING PROJECTION,
PLENTIFUL EVIDENCE OF CONSUMING ARROGANCE,
PLENTIFUL EVIDENCE OF HORRIFIC BLAMING OF OTHERS FOR THEIR OWN SINS,
PLENTIFUL EVIDENCE OF DEEP CHRONIC UNFORGIVENESS,
ETC. ETC. ETC.
Wow, I never heard it said this way, but it rings correct.
Does this mean that there are those who are truly saved,Mark? And KNOW they are saved right now? How can you be saddened if you "know" some are truly lost if you are not "truly saved" and know it? Not "will be", but "ARE". If so, praise God, that you have been given the security of knowing you are truly saved. It's a very un-Catholic position, but how else to explain your knowledge of the "truly lost"..
? Oy! LOL! That's funny! :)
Martin Luther created the perception that one can extract whatever one wants from Scripture and call it worshipping God.
Do you not understand that Christianity is not about religion but a relationship? It’s not about being enslaved to a laundry list of do’s and don’t’s trying to earn God’s favor and approval and forgivenness, hoping against hope that in the end we’ll have been found not wanting. It’s about being forgiven in Christ through the new birth, being born again, as Jesus said we must be.
Platitudes. The pantheon of Protestant beliefs are all about creating one's own belief system and as long as a handful of magic words ie born again are incorporated, it's all good. As long as it's what you personally design, and not about what the exterior Judgement of God will be. If you believe in the Christian God, it is all about the hope that St. Paul expressed rather well - the hope of salvation. With most Protestants, it is about the surety of whatever you've come up with from under your toenails that morning.
The Catholic religion keeps people constantly on edge. You never know whether you make it or not until it’s too late to do anything about it. It’s enslaving and that’s NOT what Christ came to do. He came to set us free.
Christ came to us with a laundry list of what to do and what not to do. He expounded on the Judgement that He would give to each man based upon his deeds, and so did all the NT writers. I love the way that many of the Protestants here will pound their chests and proclaim that they will not be Judged because Jesus was Judged for them. Crap. Jesus does not Judge Himself. He Judges each man and if the amateur theologians here would admit it, anything to the contrary is not Christian whatsoever.
We answer to God alone. We go to the Father in prayer as directed by Jesus. We don’t forsake the assembling of ourselves together but do not do it out of obligation or compulsion in fear but gratitude and thanksgiving in love for what He has done for us.
Convenient. You answer to nobody, in other words, and use that rationalization of reporting to God as a means of deflecting any and all commentary about your actions. You believe how you want, you act how you want, at the whim of the moment, and blame it all or justify it all, depending on the moment, on God. Positively Reformed in thinking, it seems.
Absolutely. You oughta hear them talk about theology after a half dozen shots of Jack. Joseph Smith is a piker compared to some of these boys.
Why not send us postcards from the edge - of the Milky Way, that is...
This is the crux. No mediator means that they can go pray to God directly with no human between them and the Savior, and put whatever spin on their sins that they want to. It's amazing the justifications they come up with for behaving in a horrible manner: "Oh, Father God, forgive all those lost in outer darkness who tempt Thy people away from Thee." "Oh Father God, I'm sorry I harmed my neighbor with gossip, and I beg You to forgive him for his sins. We bless Thee for saving us from worldly ways, and we bless Thee for keeping us in Thy Holiness, in Jesus' Name, amen."
The Apostle Paul 'invented' many of his own prayers...And recorded them in what Peter calls scripture...Paul ask the congregations to 'invent' their own prayers to pray for him...
Seems to be the example set for the church...
The 'Our Father' prayer was given to Jews...They were to pray for the Kingdom of Heaven to be established on earth....That is not the prayer of the church as can be seen by Paul's prayers...
Oh, trust me, I’ve heard them.
Smith at least had the sense to write a whole new book that purported to support his heresy.
But of course, monsieur. Vive le roi!
“Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear.” - Thomas Jefferson
Let's see, you've said before that the Nestorian heretics were right and that Christians shouldn't read the Gospels and now you are even saying that Christians should pray the Lord's Prayer.
What sect DO you belong to?
Posts like yours are PROOF that anti-Catholics aren't Christians, because if they were Christians they would be correcting you.
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