Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
What is necessary is to leave the cults that exist outside Christ’s One Holy Apostolic Catholic Church (Orthodox, Oriental, Catholic, Assyrian) and outside the orthodox, traditional Christian Protestant groups like Traditional Lutherans (LCMS, WLCA etc), Traditional Anglicans, etc.
Where the Ekklesia is you see the fruits of the Holy Spirit
Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Gal 5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
It’s not in a building or an institution.It’s in individual people who follow God’s WORD.
Gal 5:24 And they that are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Gal 5:26 Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.
To many institutions are guilty of vain glory , they have blinded themselves by deciding they know better than God’s WORD . The have become arrogant and legalistic limbo lands , their preachers do not believe God’s WORD and the proof is in the fruits their churches are bearing .
It’s interesting on how history is repeating itself.
Rom 10:1 Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
Rom 10:2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
Rom 10:3 For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
1Co 10:21 Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord’s table, and of the table of devils.
1Co 10:22 Do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? are we stronger than he?
INDEED.
AMEN! AMEN!
Isn’t it, in Rome’s case
agshysterism?
Personally, I’ll take freedom in Christ any day instead of putting myself back into the bondage inflicted by the [Roman] Catholic [farce].
Christ said that the truth would set us free and who the Son sets free is free indeed.
Performing religious tasks and obligations under coercion is not freedom in Christ.
INDEED. Well put.
A lot of the posts on y’all’s side indicate that the need for a liver transplant was passed a long time ago.
It may be miraculous that some are still functioning at all.
Even in times of despair and heartache where it would be so easy to chuck it all, a child of God will never lose his deep heart faith. He may run from God and try to live his life the way he wants, but it only leads to more heartache and after enough time goes by, he returns home. That is because his Heavenly Father has never given up on him, never stopped drawing him back, never stopped loving him and stands there waiting with open arms to welcome back and fully forgive because that is the kind of God he is and he never breaks his promises to us. God is NOT afraid of our doubts but is willing and waiting to answer everyone of them. We just have to trust him.
Well put.
Hank H was reportedly caught in very spiritually ‘questionable’ if not horrific . . . ‘questionable’ dealings with . . . certain aspects of . . . what he was . . . bequeathed, IIRC.
Claim him as a source at your own risk.
I personally find many of his assertions off the wall and devoid of solid truth.
THANKS FOR BEING SO UNMITIGATEDLY AND WHOLESALE WRONG.
Holy Spirit has already demonstrated HIS persistent approvel of all those groups.
Many thousands of individuals have been brought into a Saving RELATIONSHIP with Jesus and The Father through Holy Spirit’s operating in those groups.
Many thousands of people have been healed of serious and often deadly diseases in those groups around the world.
Go ahead and cast aspersions at your own risk. You will pay the price for it, in due course.
God is not mocked. Whatsoever a man sows, so shall he reap.
BTW, I once met John Wimber face to face in Tapei. He was the real deal and very anointed, humble and down to earth.
THANKS FOR BEING SO UNMITIGATEDLY AND WHOLESALE WRONG.
BTW, I once met John Wimber face to face in Tapei. He was the real deal and very anointed, humble and down to earth.
It’s not at all surprising to me that Holy Spirit disagrees with you wholesale about John Wimber et al.
For myself, I turn to kosta for hard information, especially about EO, i.e., Apostolic, theology (which he knows and expresses faithfully, even if he no longer accepts it) and the spirit of EO Christianity, but also about church history, Biblical manuscripts, the Greek Fathers. He seldom confuses his opinion with historical fact (though he may interpret the meaning of historical fact differently than I do).
. . . even when it makes their own faith out to look like it's based on myths and no different from any other of the myriads "manmade" religions.
Not sure how you arrive here: every question kosta has is based on fact and history. Kosta's not the only one in the world who knows this stuff, and it's good to be aware of it. Would you have a faith that depends on denial of indisputable facts? The conclusions kosta has arrived at are not the conclusions I arrive at, the interpretations he favors are not the interpretations I favor. I have disputed him in the past and likely will in the future in those areas in which I really do know more (which seldom come up).
I consider kosta a valuable resource (especially valuable since apparently the EO believers on FR can't stomach these threads!). Plus, he's always interesting -- and it helps that he's coherent!
Strange formulation! God the Son a/k/a Jesus -- sounds like a police BOLO! Maybe you meant "God the Son d/b/a Jesus"?
All I've seen is "financial irregularities" in relation to CRI... ok wait, now I see that the accusations include using donations for personal expenses and employing his wife as "director of planning". OK, he uses his inherited "ministry" as a personal fiefdom. His side of the story appears to be that all of his book royalties are rolled directly into the ministry funds and his compensation is significantly lower than if he just took the book money directly.
The way you phrased your post seemed to suggest something more sinister.
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