I think that we understand where Quix is coming from and the folks that he hangs around...
Uh oh, Sweet Judith will be upset you didn't provide a source for your photo.
Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
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Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
Now that everyone has left for the day. A serious question. I’d like an answer with out all of the anti-Catholic shrieking. This is not about the issue of apostate Catholics.
What I don’t understand is how you (anyone) and join a church fellowship for years and when they decide there is something they don’t like go off to the next one. Why does it appear that protestant denominations are interchangeable? If the HS led you to one church, why would you change? Or even a pastor who goes off and starts his own church? Is the HS spirit telling him something different than his former church home? Which version of the HS is correct? Sometimes the differences in the churches are not minor.
Correction: "I didn't quote any 'entire' source verbatim.
As for the books in your library on the subject:
I don't believe a word of it.
Logic states you worship Mary if you worship God since you consider her to be, “Mother of God.”
I do not take or eschew action at the bidding of the likes of you. Man up or get off the pot.
I've often discovered that those who act in imitation of the real thing, often accuse the real thing of the actual sins that the imitators themselves perform.
Uh oh, Sweet Judith will be upset you didn't provide a source for your photo.
Would seem a fair UU assumption:
The Covenant of Unitarian Universalist Pagans
"…providing support for Pagan-identified UU religious professionals and ministerial students; and fostering healing relationships with our mother the Earth and all her children."
Unitarian Universalists Honor National Coming Out Day
"Unitarian Universalists across the country are promoting equality for bisexual, gay, lesbian, and transgender people through vigils, rallies, letters to the editor, and other public demonstrations of support."
What???
Can’t you tell the difference between worship services and prayer?
I was answering the question about why Protestants went to church.
Why’d you go and change the subject?
Luck is for those such as yourself, that worship only mortal men, and deny God’s word.
Melek Taus is probably one of your “saints” I assume?
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Then explain to me why Catholics pray in church.
Aren’t they disobeying Jesus as well then?
Do you always pray only in a dark corner??
The Bible.
Jesuit training! "It wasn't an entire quote."
That's one Mr. Petroni.
Hebrews 10:24-25 And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds. Let us not give up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but let us encourage one another—and all the more as you see the Day approaching.
Now it's your turn. Show me from Scripture where we're commanded to meet every Sunday (once a week) and that it's a sin if we don't.
While you're at it, could you please find some reference in the Bible about the distinction between mortal and venial sins?
Is this the way your church officially states its belief? Is there a document, written, called Statement of Beliefs or Principles or Confession of Faith, Creed, or System of Doctrines, etc.?
I think that it's likely.
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Pray tell us all the conclusions, if you please.
Paul is the one who wrote in opposition to women in leadership positions over men.
Is he *in* now that you have a doctrine you want his teachings to support?
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