Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
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Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
God’s purpose has been as Christ said that He would protect His Church, which is what He has done —> your group if it belongs to the WCC is a part of the One world false religion, denying Christ’s One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church
I can't honestly say I agree with you on that. I have seen you post reprimands to those on your side - which I really do not like it that we refer to each other this way, BTW. Your posts are usually asking for a settling down of tempers and a return to civil discourse. I don't remember you ever, correcting a fellow Catholic's doctrine, though. You say, admirably, that some have done wrong, have not brought glory to Christ and you have discussed various heresies that had happened in the past. But I just don't recall anytime you argued against a fellow FReeper Catholic's doctrinal belief.
I, on the other hand, have seen many. There was another mega-thread (55k+) last year and involved disagreements between the Calvinists and those who were not. We were mostly all non-Catholics involved in that part. It stayed respectful, for the most part. I also remember several regarding Dispensation Theology, End-times, and even a few concerning pro-life issues. We "Protestants" have liberty in the Lord to not always agree on minor doctrines. However, when it comes to what are considered the major doctrines of the faith there most certainly is unity.
I think it is unfair to lump all the various cults into the bucket with protestantism. Any faith that calls itself Christian is expected to hold to the principle doctrines of our faith found only in the Bible. These principles are not negotiable and must be accepted. They are the same ones believed by the early church and taught by Jesus Christ himself and his appointed apostles and are preserved for us in Scripture which is our authority for all faith and doctrine. We also believe in Unity, Liberty and, in all things, Love.
Immaterial.
Follow the rules.
You got videos of 3 million Catholic Clown worship services?
I think you may have your categories mixed up.
Thanks be to ALEX MURPHY'S POST once again...
By doing "nothing to practice his faith except attending Sunday and Daily Mass (and the few Holy Days), in two years' time (after which the reading cycle ends), a Mass-attending Catholic will hear 13.5% of the Old Testament (3378 verses), and in three years' time (after which the reading cycle ends) a Mass-attending Catholic will hear 71.5% of the New Testament (5689 verses). That all adds up to a total of 9067 out of 33001 verses mentioned in the chart, i.e. only 27.5% of the entire Bible (excluding Psalms) is heard by a daily-Mass-attending Catholic.
That's DAILY mass attendance. Divide that by seven for someone who just attends on Sunday.
Apparently Rome only preaches from the Beatitudes and any stray line that mentions Mary.
Read the Bible, at least the New Testament, from start to finish. It will change your life, God willing.
You’re preaching from the New Testament, and Roman Catholics are unfamiliar with 95% of the NT.
No wonder they worship the material world. They err, not knowing the word of God nor the power of God.
That is not a correct statement. Biblical Archaeologists have made and continue to make astounding discoveries that overwhelmingly support events described in the Bible. Read some of Dr. Henry Morris of Institute for Creation Research. There are also numerous scholarly writings, archaeological finds and museums that increasingly confirm what was written about in the Bible thousands of years ago and before. It is a fascinating subject to study.
When its convenient for them to tell the world priests can be dismissed, that’s what they say.
When it’s inconvenient for them to tell the world priests can be dismissed (as in the pederast priest sex scandals) that’s what they say.
Expediency rules Rome.
Thanks for your links. Two observations...
The clown in question looks to be utilized for the children in the church. Unlike Rome, where the clowns lead the mass.
And when we search google for Catholic clown worship, you get 3,040,000 hits.
I swiped them from a variety of saints. You two figure prominently in my thefts. 8~)
And I’ll repeat...When Christians mimic the idolatry of Rome, they fall into foolishness and apostasy.
No, that was your slander. Christians kneel to Christ alone. Not to Mary. Not to dead men. Not to an "alter Christus."
Obviously Rome agrees with her.
Why do you feel the need to go to someone other than God with your prayers?
Follow the thread back to see what was being compared.
you started demanding to know which denomination Dr E belonged to post 12538
Intended Catholic Dictatorship Monday, October 18, 2010 11:51:26 AM · 12,540 of 12,896
Judith Anne to Dr. Eckleburg
What kind of Presbyterian? There are several distinct groups.
Notice the vestments and the church decor.
Wishful thinking, Mark. Googling "Catholic clown mass" both those two photos emerged.
Read the google links for yourself. They are Roman Catholic masses.
Both photos came from the boston-catholic-journal.com.
This is a great example of Roman Catholic apologists just making things up and apparently hoping no one calls them on it.
They also post things and two posts later deny they said it, or blame someone else
They also post things and two posts later deny they said it, or blame someone else
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