Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
|
"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
|
Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
Who was the tatted-up wonder from Canada a few years ago?
lol. Tell Judith. Apparently she was suspicious of the origin of those photos.
Again, which one is the clown?
Do you believe that Jacob Gebhart did his own original research? Perhaps he merely citing what in some circles is common knowledge or relying on earlier sources. I not you are attacking the messenger instead of defending your statements.
Diversion?
Where did you find what you quoted without attribution?
How do Catholics interpret that ?
Oh I would say that Catholics certainly agree with that. However, Protestantism has almost totally embraced heresy with the ordination of women, including women as bishops.
Now, I am well aware that we have plenty of Protestant FReepers who will rush forward shouting, "My denomination doesn't ordain women;" however, the reality is that NEITHER DID ANY OF THE OTHER DENOMINATIONS PRIOR TO THE MID-20th CENTURY. What this tells me is that the denominations that don't ordain women probably will soon and this explains why so many Protestants are fleeing the heresy of Protestantism for the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church (which includes the Orthodox Church).
I already did look them up. Why is it that you are unable to give the link for the photos that YOU posted? Are you ashamed?
Thanks for the ping. That's pretty funny. It reminded me of the "What's up with that?" SNL skit. :)
But, but, but, how can she provide the actual links without admitting that she is copying content from "those" sites again.
Any thoughts on why a Google search of Presbyterian church clowns would result in 105,000 hits?
And lest we forget, Rome has totally usurped the role and purpose of the Holy Spirit. What could be a greater error?
Over the years on this forum I've been strengthened to learn of the over-riding agreement Protestant churches have regarding their salvation by Christ, for Christ, through Christ, in direct and clear opposition to the traditions of men taught by Rome.
"Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.
And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;
And patience, experience; and experience, hope:
And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us." -- Romans 5:1-5
Do you understand Paul? Do you see that he is telling us that even the love we have for God is given to us by the Holy Spirit?
Rome boasts of itself, while Protestants glory in the Lord alone.
"Come and hear, all ye that fear God, and I will declare what he hath done for my soul." -- Psalm 66:16
No one else."
Every word true.
Witnessing all the angst, calling for a pound of flesh, street talk about a false document being posted -
Surely there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth when they find out these RCC teachings are, also, false:
Mary having no other children;
Mary taking over Holy Spirit’s job of drawing people to Christ;
Mary taking over Christ’s job of providing Salvation for all mankind;
Mary being Queen of Heaven;
Mary conquering hell;
Mary sharing in the hypostatic union of the Godhead;
Mary being Heaven’s chief intercessor for earthbound folks;
No man coming to God except through Mary;
The Vatican being the only true church of Christ.
I think it is because we do not want to see God mocked or treated without respect ..
We've had Benny Hinn declared "orthodox" on this thread and his normal antics are far more clown-like than you would see at any circus.
I once saw Benny Hinn in person.. he was "appearing " at a church near me.. I would never call him orthodox ..in fact until recently I would have said plainly that he was a charlatan ..a pretender
Then I saw this U tube video, now I am not sure of his personal standing with God, but I would never advise anyone to go to see him
This is one of a series of his.. It has given me hope that even Benny can find mercy
Is that what you group you belong this week?
Sure I can. Being agnostic doesn't mean you don't know what others claim, preach or believe, or for that matter what one used to believe; it merely means one is not sure.
Mainstream Protestants agree on the basic, historic, orthodox beliefs of Christianity
In terminology, but everyone has a different concept, even if slightly different.
Basic beliefs which Roman Catholics deny, i.e. Jesus Christ is the only mediator between God and men;
See, this is what I mean. Catholics do no such thing. If you were as good at substantiating as you are at accusing, you'd be fantastic.
Scripture is the revealed will of God and as such, remains our only rule of faith and practice
I don't remember reading it is the "will" of God. And as such it remains only a conjecture.
the priesthood of all believers and not a priesthood of "alter Christus;"
The priesthood of all believers applies only to the Jews as God's chosen people, as per the Old Testament. Jesus never said otherwise.
Alter Christus refers to the priest in his liturgical role, leading the flock, making the bloodless sacrifice, preaching the Gospels, blessing, etc. The New Testament states that Christ said to his disciples "whatsoever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven".
That means the officiating priest acts in place of Christ, but only in his official role. It does not reflect on the priest's human character or nature; only in the performance of the sacramental duties.
salvation by grace and not good works;
Again, your own demigod Paul says otherwise, and I have shown you exactly which verses. And he says different things to different audiences. But you choose to pick and choose. See that's part of being a Protestant—they make up their own rules and religion.
and a spiritual, symbolic participation in the Lord's Supper, rather than the cannibalistic repast conjured up by Rome
That's what the early Church believed; that's what the Church still believes.
And lest we forget, Rome has totally usurped the role and purpose of the Holy Spirit. What could be a greater error?
Oh what nosnese! How can anything man-made usurp the role and purpose (sic) of the divine? Not even the Protestants can do that.
Over the years on this forum I've been strengthened to learn of the over-riding agreement Protestant churches have regarding their salvation by Christ, for Christ, through Christ, in direct and clear opposition to the traditions of men taught by Rome
It's a "feel-good" club where you are told if you believe you are saved, no matter what you do.
Do you understand Paul? Do you see that he is telling us that even the love we have for God is given to us by the Holy Spirit?
But your (Reformed) God is also the source of evil. Only the Gnostcis believed that before Calvin.
Rome boasts of itself, while Protestants glory in the Lord alone. "Come and hear, all ye that fear God, and I will declare what he hath done for my soul." -- Psalm 66:16
Why should the Protestants "fear" God if they "know" they are "saved?" This is what I mean when I say Protestantism is sheer man-made nonsense.
thank ya kindly :)
Good to see you JA!
God has a purpose for the Catholic church surviving this long Cronos...and it won't be for what you now think and will think in the future. So yes, the Hierarchy and the membership which financially supports it will continue for that day it will indeed incorporate into the One World Religion... and is currently already laying the groundwork....just as the World wide Council of Churches is doing. History has proved many times just because any entity has survived does not make it truth nor does it make it true to God. Islam has been here for centuries....Hinduism, Buddhism, and the like. The true church will likely go underground as things develop....the Catholic Church as a institute will stand and join the One world Religion....likely composed of the mainline faiths...including Islam.
Judging by the quality of the antiCatholicism slung on this thread, more like the local five and dime.
I am sorry
Accepted.
They ignore that part of Paul, as they ignore that part of Paul where he tells that works do matter for your salvation.
What this tells me is that the denominations that don't ordain women probably will soon
I'd be interested to know how many and which Protestant sects/cults actually prohibit ordinaiton of women and which allow it.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.