Question: Which one is the clown?
Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
It’s business as usual. Sigh.
I would say a lie is a lie no matter the source.. like an “unbroken line of popes from Peter” or apostolic succession at all
Just as i fell for the oath some still believe in apostolic succession and the unbroken line of the papacy
ABSOLUTELY INDEED.
Question: Which one is the clown?
It’s just amazing that people believe that because they have more members, they’ve “been around longer”, they blah, blah, blah, they are SURELY the “true church”. Satan has been around since BEFORE the fall, endlessly impressed people. You think he shudders with fear when you quote traditions or doctrines of men?? Bwhahahaha...look around you. He is everywhere that works supercede Christ’s finished work on the Cross. He is overseeing every place that people believe the traditions and doctrines of men over God’s written word. He waits with anticipation for people to be overpowered by lying signs, wonders, and miracles. That’s why he’s still here. To continue THE LIE. “I WILL...I CAN...” You are protected all right. From the TRUTH. That comes from the written word of God. Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God. NOT MAN’S fairytales of how to get to God.
INDEED.
“...unreadable ransom note like screed that at best attempts to redecorate the forum using splashes of colors, fonts, overused cliches, and ill wit disguised as archaic language.”
You have a way with words. Great description.
More sweetness learned on which of Mary’s knees?
Megachurch “Bishop”:
Cross It Up: How God Made Obama, not Hillary, is President:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbU5XoBgtH4&feature=related
“The Switcheroo is in!
By now you should know enough to give the source of the photos. Otherwise, totally meaningless.
The examples I gave are not the whole of the web site but I didn’t really want to repost the whole article seeing that it seems to be original to the author, “How many came out of the exodus of Egypt
By Jacob Gebhart”.
by the way let's have the Catholics here reveal which kinds of Catholic churches they frequent. Or is that just for Protestants?
First the Presbyterians.
you go first
“Beast Mass”, the one with the animal costumes, is from St. Joan of Arc Catholic Church in Minneapolis, MN
Baloney. No stupid games.
Give the photo link.
It’s all they know.
I couldn't find anything at the link for the first picture, but I do have to wonder what prompted you to OMIT the comments condemning this travesty:
In the center the priest, behind him the altar, surrounding him a group of persons dressed as clowns. You are looking at a "Clown Mass" that took place in Pleasant Hill, California. Another conciliar novelty to transform the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass to an irreverent celebration.~snip~
Let us not fall into the error of creating a Church in the image of the contemporary world. Our Lord has established the hierarchical nature and sacral spirit of the Church to safeguard and keep Her holy. Let us do our part to combat any tendencies that trivialize our Holy Faith.
Just curious, why would people who think the Mass is about just eating "crackers" care if there were clowns there or not?
We've had Benny Hinn declared "orthodox" on this thread and his normal antics are far more clown-like than you would see at any circus.
What I see is Paul, an apostle chosen by God, the first catechist of the New Church called nuts, inconsistent and teaching one doctrine to one group and another to another..
God does not change..so knowing as protestants we see that the Scriptures actually interpret themselves.. because God is consistent
Of what use is an infallible instrument if interpreted by a fallible person?
Thats what we say about the Catholic church LOL...
How DO you interpret 1 Timothy 2:11-12?
Women are not to have authority in the church ... women are not to be pastors, or teachers of men in the church.
How do catholics interpret that ?
Look them up yourself, Judith. I don’t see any RCs “giving the source” of their cat pictures, etc.
Do your own homework.
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