Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
That will never happen and you know it. Wait for the subject change... it always happens.
A cult is a cult is a cult. If they were even a fraction of what they claimed they would admit what took place. And she’s disappeared. Nuf said.
It’s just another one of the fake “troofs of the Caflicks” that your phony pastors are feeding you, along with their own personal spins on the Bible. It would be better to leave them behind.
Exactly so. If you are the pathetic lickspittle front man for a group that you hope will include you, even though in reality they really despise you, anything can be posted.
And it’s only to be expected that screaming anti-Christian Church pastors use false stories like this plus also the one that caww unfortunately found (about a “Pope Constantine V” hilarious!!) —> this shows you how deep the world hates Christ’s Church, the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church — the lying ‘pasters’ just keep putting phony stories out there and keep feeding it to you and the rest of the led-away flock, and they keep you away from Christ and Christ’s Church.
The oath was posted to you considerably prior to you posting what you did.
That is not what we have seen in the writings posted...Your church fathers say, one after another, if it ain't in the scriptures, dump it...
Now you are equating your drivel to the Bible? Is there no end to your hubris? There is nothing biblical about your the words or actions you defend.
You literally disgust me. The old maxim is to hate the sin, but love the sinner. Through your own actions you have twisted that into love the sin, but hate the Catholics.
There are many that are preserved through Apostolic succession etc..(too many to list)
Since you brought up Saint Basil,here is a few from him..
http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/3203.htm
For instance, to take the first and most general example, who is thence who has taught us in writing to sign with the sign of the cross those who have trusted in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ? What writing has taught us to turn to the East at the prayer? Which of the saints has left us in writing the words of the invocation at the displaying of the bread of the Eucharist and the cup of blessing? For we are not, as is well known, content with what the apostle or the Gospel has recorded, but both in preface and conclusion we add other words as being of great importance to the validity of the ministry, and these we derive fromunwritten teaching. Moreover we bless the water of baptism and the oil of the chrism, and besides this the catechumen who is being baptized. On what written authority do we do this? Is not our authority silent and mystical tradition? Nay, by what written word is the anointing of oil itself taught? And whence comes the custom of baptizing thrice? And as to the other customs of baptism from what Scripture do we derive the renunciation of Satan and his angels? Does not this come from that unpublished and secret teaching which our fathers guarded in a silence out of the reach of curious meddling and inquisitive investigation? Well had they learned the lesson that the awful dignity of the mysteries is best preserved by silence. What the uninitiated are not even allowed to look at was hardly likely to be publicly paraded about in written documents. What was the meaning of the mighty Moses in not making all the parts of the tabernacle open to every one? The profane he stationed without the sacred barriers; the first courts he conceded to the purer; the Levites alone he judged worthy of being servants of the Deity; sacrifices and burnt offerings and the rest of the priestly functions he allotted to the priests; one chosen out of all he admitted to the shrine, and even this one not always but on only one day in the year, and of this one day atime was fixed for his entry so that he might gaze on the Holy of Holies amazed at the strangeness and novelty of the sight. Moses was wise enough to know that contempt stretches to the trite and to the obvious, while a keen interest is naturally associated with the unusual and the unfamiliar. In the same manner the Apostles and Fathers who laid down laws for the Church from the beginning thus guarded the awful dignity of the mysteries in secrecy and silence, for what is bruited abroad random among the common folk is no mystery at all. This is the reason for our tradition of unwritten precepts and practices, that the knowledge of our dogmas may not become neglected and contemned by the multitude through familiarity. “Dogma” and “Kerugma” are two distinct things; the former is observed in silence; the latter is proclaimed to all the world.- Saint Basil
I’m checking out for awhile to catch up on work.
I wish you a Blessed day!
Google is your friend. Seriously.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,928041,00.html
It really isn’t hard to find. Nice pretense though.
Did Sam’s Club
have a fire sale on cases of ignorance lately?
You've never watched the house in session? Absolutely any and everything gets read into the record, my own grandfather had at least one sermon read into the congressional record because his congressman thought it was great stuff.
/beam me up Mr Speaker
I really appreciate it when some RC’s demonstrate such
hideously poor
English comprehension.
Perhaps you could Google
COMPARE AND CONTRAST as a literary tool.
I think I learned it in the 7th grade.
I guess I’ll have to revise my esteem for the quality of most parochial schools.
Through your own actions you have twisted that into love the sin, but hate the Catholics.
Thanks for another vivid demonstration of the devotion so many RC’s seem to have to
Station #1 of the
Stations of the White Hanky:
1. ICON TO BEARING FALSE WITNESS.
I’m curious.
How do y’all rank the lies of the pastors you’re accusing
compared to the lies of the Roman Catholic hierarchy
about the priests training alter boys in various physical athletics?
I want to apologize for that post.. I did not know it was banned by FR. it is found in the documents of google and it says it came from the congressional record..
Actually the language in it did not offend me.. that is the language people used during the reformation when they did hunt down and kill people.. If one reads reformation documents from both sides you see that language used.. they were not PC or afraid of hurting peoples feelings.
I am sorry
The problem with secret societies is their real documents are hidden and they take an oath not to reveal them..so that false things can be said with no way to really refute them ...
Terry
The lies and contradictions
spread by many RC’s on FR
about the RCC
have been far more than educationally sufficient to enlighten one about a wide range of hard realities about Roman Catholocism than I’d ever wanted to know anything about.
That genie canot be put back in the bottle. The record is quite clear.
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