Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
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Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
That is one of the most idiotic things I have ever seen written about the Early Church Fathers,especially the fact that many of them were martyred to uphold the Catholic faith
Hmmmmmmmmm
And how did the Church Fathers and the Church interpret this?
"Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to MY GOSPEL, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, ACCORDING TO THE REVELATION OF THE MYSTERY, which WAS KEPT SECRET SINCE THE WORLD BEGAN, But NOW is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to ALL NATIONS for the OBEDIENCE OF FAITH;" (Rom. 16:25,26).
Paul clearly writes that HIS GOSPEL, given to him by direct revelation of Jesus Christ, is what establishes all nations for the obedience of faith. Not only that, but Paul's preaching of Jesus Christ and his gospel were a MYSTERY, kept SECRET since the world began, until revealed to Paul.
Not Peter and the 11. Paul. Your whole system of religion depends on following Peter for the "obedience of faith". A gospel that belongs to Israel, not the Church the Body of Christ. And yes, they are different.
INDEED:
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Yeah, hundreds of years after the fact.
Look at what’s happened to the interpretation of our Constitution in just a couple hundred years. Two hundred years may be closer in time than 2,000 but it’s irrelevant. They could have just as much error in that time than in more time elapsing..
Proximity in time does not guarantee proximity in truth. Error can creep in within just a few generations.
That’s why the basis for determining truth is the Word of God, not time passage.
Color me not impressed.
Well, what would you say is the distinguishing feature that would be apparent? :)
It’s a simple as ... If you want to learn the things of God, His Kingdom, The Truth - you go to His Word. If you feel someone else knows better than God, go to them. There isn’t a shortage of people deceived.
indeed.
Only one pope mark.. only one ... and he lives in Rome, the seat of Peter..correct?
That does not come through. The hatred of the Church does. Your self-described salvation and the self-satisfaction of that does also.
I am not afraid or ashamed to say that Christ paid the price for my sins.. Why would i ever deny the work of Christ . I am a begger trying to show other beggers were to find bead
My friend I am sorry that I have made you so angry.. but if the gospel is correctly presented it will always made people angry ... It is just the flesh waring against the spirit..
I love ya mark, I think you are a sweet guy..
And yet some of those very same "bishops" were part of this "Magesterium" that is placed on the same level of authority as Holy Scripture itself. What is wrong with THIS picture???
Essentially, what you're saying is that Jesus did not establish the Church ,Paul did,and God had to wait for Paul
How very Gnostic of you!
Wrong. The subject was different. You made a statement about Catholics not reading the Bible, and about Catholic religious authorities discouraging Bible-reading
The subject was Roman Catholics not studying the Bible and only doing so because an indulgence is attached as a perk.
Sad that RCs don't understand the joy that comes with reading the Scriptures for their own sake. They are "the power of God."
Now, answer my question.
Stomp a little louder. The last row missed it.
The Magisterium is an instrument of the Holy Spirit. Just as the Holy Spirit worked with a body of men to produce the canon of the Bible, the Holy Spirit works with a body of men to ensure that the interpretation of Scripture remains authentic.
The indulgence. Time off for good behavior.
Maybe if we just ignore it it will stay away for another three days.
Some folks pray once per day...They start when they get up in the morning and say Amen when they lay their head on their pillow that night...Guess that seems kind of foolish to you...
AMEN!
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That's a pretty broad statement!
You all teach a different Christ from each other-one teaches adult baptism the other teaches infant Baptism,One teaches consubstantiation the other teaches symbol only,some allow gay clergy, etc... on and on
Clearly you are not united in Christ regarding matters of faith unless you think Christ was a pluralist,anything goes regarding faith
I hope that every believer follows in the footsteps of those that have gone before, that followed Christ
AMEN!
As we've seen, Roman Catholics have zero understanding of the book of Hewbrews.
Hebrews. It’s raining.
Your post is gibberish. So many of your posts are gibberish. You post nasty comments about individual people. You make sarcastic statements that have no foundation in reality nor do they have anything to do with the topic being discussed. You post stupidity and ignorance.
You’re in the right church.
Exactly!
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