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Not only that, but Paul's preaching of Jesus Christ and his gospel were a MYSTERY, kept SECRET since the world began, until revealed to Paul.....Not Peter and the 11. Paul. Your whole system of religion depends on following Peter for the "obedience of faith

Essentially, what you're saying is that Jesus did not establish the Church ,Paul did,and God had to wait for Paul

How very Gnostic of you!

What I'm saying to you is what God's Word says. You may not like it, but you cannot change it. It was a MYSTERY, kept SECRET since the world began, until it was revealed to Paul. Peter and Paul did not preach the same gospel. Peter preached the gospel of the kingdom, which included repentance and baptism for the remission of sins.

Paul thanks God that he baptized "NONE OF YOU, but Crispus and Gaius...and I baptized also the household of Stephanas besides I KNOW NOT whither I baptized any other. For Christ sent me NOT TO BAPTIZE, but TO PREACH THE GOSPEL...." (1 Cor. 1:14, 16, 17).

Obviously, the gospel Paul preached was not the same as the one preached by Peter. Peter's included baptism for the remission of sins, and Paul states specifically that his gospel did NOT include baptism. (NOT to BAPTIZE, BUT TO PREACH THE GOSPEL.) If baptism was part of Paul's gospel, he would have baptized believers. Not only did he NOT, he THANKED GOD he did not. Peter and the 11 could NEVER have made that statement.

Paul preached the Gospel of the Grace of God, which was given to Paul by the risen Lord. "But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which WAS PREACHED OF ME is NOT AFTER MAN. For I NEITHER RECEIVED IT OF MAN, NEITHER WAS I TAUGHT IT, but BY THE REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST." (Gal. 1:11,12). The gospel Paul taught was not taught by any other. He received it, not from men, not from Peter and the 11 or any other men, but directly from Jesus Christ Himself.

BTW, God WAITS for no one. It was God's Plan that was fulfilled. NOT Paul's.

I know it's difficult to read the Bible as IT IS WRITTEN, not as you would like it to be written, or as men have taught you it is written, but to read it just as it is. God means what He says and says what He means. It is our choice whether to believe His Word. It doesn't change the Truth of it.

sfa to smv: Essentially, what you're saying is that Jesus did not establish the Church ,Paul did,and God had to wait for Paul. How very Gnostic of you!

You run into a lot of that as you get into Protestant fringe or even some mainline sects. Without Paul they would have nothing, so they should really be considered Paulianinas. Most Protestants consider the Gospels "OT" anyway. It is no wonder that Valentius and Marcion favored the good old Saul over anything else. Obviously the Protestants find a lot in common with these and some Baptists even say they can trace their roots back to Maricon [empahsis added]:

"There is an even greater affinity between the Marcionite churches and the Baptist churches. Many Baptist historians trace modern Baptist churches back to the Anabaptists of northern Europe...The analogy between the Marcionites and the Baptists does not end with this probable evidence of historical lineage. The similar character of the churches is more remarkable. They both were a) simple, b) New Testament oriented, c) non-establishment, d) non-sacerdotal, e) non-sacramental, f) evangelistic, g) faithful to sola scriptura, and h) devoted to Jesus.

On the subject regarding "Marcion's historical position," Adolf von Harnack stated: "It is understandable that Neander could call him {Marcion} the first Protestant. But we may go further. He not only took up again the work and the struggle of Paul, but he also did this in the apostle's understanding and consciousness of faith; for it was his intention to know nothing save Christ the crucified one" (ibid p. 124, 125)." [Marcion/Baptist History]