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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: individualliberty
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To: RnMomof7
the 4th child my sister in law has lost.. .

That is just sorrowful. The poor woman. I think of Rachel.

The Ol' Mizris and I only have the one and I've explained to her that I get to die first or I'm cutting her out of my will.

11,501 posted on 10/14/2010 5:26:04 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Cronos; caww
Nice and simple point -- Rn doubted that Early Christians practised the same practises and believed the same beliefs as practised and believed in the Church. I posted extensive examples that her statement was wrong.

Actually what I said was that there is no word from God in the scriptures that teach apostolic succession , the NT priesthood ,or the papacy ...you still have not given me any ..so I rest my case

The Roman catholic church has a man made Doctrine and has no authority from God

11,502 posted on 10/14/2010 5:26:43 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Judith Anne; 1000 silverlings; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; ...

Do you think we were all born yesterday?


Given the evidence in many of the RC postings . . .

yesterday could be toooo long ago.

Though probably for many . . . they seem to come from 2 year olds.


11,503 posted on 10/14/2010 5:27:16 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: editor-surveyor
My Grandmother (wife of a Pentecostal Minister) was a founding member of the WCTU.

That is so cool! (not that I'm in favor of teetotal, but anyway...) Did you know her before she passed?

11,504 posted on 10/14/2010 5:28:21 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Iscool
You're a Christian now? That's not apparent by your fruit. You won't be Judged? That's not what the Bible says. Yes, that is what the bible says...

The Bible says that Iscool is a Christian? Let me check...nope. Not there. Does the Bible say that men will not be Judged? Let me check...nope. Not there. Iscool, you are still completely consistent; let me congratulate you.

Because I work to lead people to Jesus instead of to your religion indicates I have no fruits of the Spirit???

Firstly, I don't have a religion; I get to follow Christ. Secondly, the fruits that I refer to are the steaming piles of fruit that you so often leave masquerading as posts on FR.

11,505 posted on 10/14/2010 5:28:55 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (A puritan is a person who pours righteous indignation into the wrong things.)
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To: Judith Anne
"I suspect the Harpy Sisters have all been to the same web page today."

You don't suppose it is one of "those" sites again, do you?

11,506 posted on 10/14/2010 5:30:10 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: Iscool
They know that the letters of Ignatius are spurious but they use them anyway as a major authority for their Christianism...

I don't know that the letters of Ignatius are spurious.

11,507 posted on 10/14/2010 5:30:16 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: wagglebee
The YOPIOS crowd is reluctant to address the FACT that without widespread literacy and the means to mass-produce Bibles, what they call Christianity COULD NOT HAVE EXISTED

Amazing that Christianity managed to develop without the printing press huh? The epistles seemed to work..

Even today Evangelical churches are growing in China were bibles are forbidden ...The Holy Spirit seems to work pretty well

11,508 posted on 10/14/2010 5:31:10 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Quix; OLD REGGIE
Best to ignore all which cannot be proven as authentic.

Well put. Thx

By that account, who can prove any of the NT? Are there any NT writings still in existence? How do we know that the Church simply didn't forge every single NT book? Do you have proof?

11,509 posted on 10/14/2010 5:32:01 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (A puritan is a person who pours righteous indignation into the wrong things.)
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To: 1000 silverlings
"that’s name calling and against the rules"

No its not. It is merely descriptive of a behavior. That you would associate it with specific FReepers speaks a lot about you and those who frequently act in a "Harpish" manner.

11,510 posted on 10/14/2010 5:32:33 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: editor-surveyor
. For your edification, most Pentecostals eschew even the consumption of alcohol.

What about peyote?

11,511 posted on 10/14/2010 5:32:56 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (A puritan is a person who pours righteous indignation into the wrong things.)
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To: RnMomof7; wagglebee

and they keep conveniently forgetting that they have a HUGE YOPIOS crowd themselves-— just deny, deny, deny


11,512 posted on 10/14/2010 5:33:03 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: bkaycee
Again my initial question was "So really anyone can get to heaven by just living the Golden rule of Matt 25, correct?"

Why that seems to be a silly question to me is that I cannot see how anyone could do that without the grace of God enabling and motivating him to do so.

11,513 posted on 10/14/2010 5:34:15 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Jaded; Dr. Eckleburg; MarkBsnr; Cronos; wagglebee; metmom; Judith Anne
What happened to him DEFIES what the Protestants claim is possible. HE WALKED AWAY.

There is no evidence in the information you gave that this man was ever saved..

1Jo 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would [no doubt] have continued with us: but [they went out], that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

11,514 posted on 10/14/2010 5:35:54 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: 1000 silverlings
Are you saying the priest referenced earlier in post 11,345 as a fine example of a Charismatic Christian, smokes dope?

Fr Corapi? I know he used to do crack.

To my knowledge he's not a pentecostal charismatic... I wouldn't have expected anyone to call him a charismatic except in the "engaging and/or captivating" sense.

11,515 posted on 10/14/2010 5:37:01 PM PDT by Legatus (Keep calm and carry on)
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To: RnMomof7
Actually I buried my 51 year old nephew today, the 4th child my sister in law has lost.. ...So this Harpy ...was not around .

We pray for the soul of your nephew.

Do not take names upon yourself that you do not deserve.

11,516 posted on 10/14/2010 5:37:23 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (A puritan is a person who pours righteous indignation into the wrong things.)
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To: Legatus

charismatic=pentecostal, get used to it.


11,517 posted on 10/14/2010 5:39:43 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: RnMomof7
presbyters are not priests and priests are not presbyters

I'm sure this has been gone over, but still . . .

From the Online Etymology Dictionary:

priest O.E. preost, shortened from the older Gmc. form represented by O.S., O.H.G. prestar, O.Fris. prestere, from V.L. *prester "priest," from L.L. presbyter "presbyter, elder," from Gk. presbyteros (see Presbyterian). In O.T. sense, a translation of Heb. kohen, Gk. hiereus, L. sacerdos.

11,518 posted on 10/14/2010 5:40:45 PM PDT by maryz
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To: kosta50; Jaded; Dr. Eckleburg; MarkBsnr; Cronos; wagglebee; RnMomof7; metmom; Judith Anne; ...
They will tell you they were never really married...lol. That's how they rationalize Protestant apostates: they were never regenerated (because the "saved" ones persevere), they never really believed.

Actually it is the catholics that tell you they were never really married, in spite of say 15 years and 3 children ...it was never really a marriage in gods eyes (talk about reading Gods mind) and BINGO an annulment is given

Hypocrites

God will not be mocked folks

11,519 posted on 10/14/2010 5:40:44 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: smvoice
"Hmmm, seems to say that the holy scriptures ALONE are able to make one wise unto salvation"

Only if those Scriptures are the Gospels. Everything else is merely supportive. However, those same Scriptures don't say what you say Scripture says without them.

11,520 posted on 10/14/2010 5:43:58 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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