Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
> “Paul does not subscribe to the Nicene Trinitarian view of Christianity. Neither do the Synoptic Gospels, by the way. It is in John that we find some evidence of the Triune God, with the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit co equal, co existing, and co eternal members of One God...”
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Interestingly enough, there is little actual support, in the doctrinal sense, for the Trinity. The authors of the NT all stated the existance of The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit as entities of the God head, but never in the way that we use it today, except for one place:
1John 5:7-8
7] For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
[8] And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
And many ‘modern’ Bibles omit these verses.
Yes, that is what the bible says...
Because I work to lead people to Jesus instead of to your religion indicates I have no fruits of the Spirit??? Shirley, you jest...
Best to ignore all which cannot be proven as authentic.
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Well put.
Thx
I think you are a very smart Lady..but I do think that it is always wise to read the scriptures carefully before making statements about them
The OT priesthood was a type of Christ.. He offered animal sacrifices for the sin of men.. The priest foreshadowed the final Priest jesus Christ.. who offered Himself ..the perfect lamb for our sins..
The priest was a type of Christ.. the lamb was a type of Christ. The entire OT is written about Christ..all of the canonical books are Cirhstocentric..
In the gospels , which are about the life of Christ before the foundation of the church ..speak of the priesthood..but what Jesus says of them is not flattering , it was the leaders of the Jews that brought jesus to be tried and killed
If one reads the NT formation of the church , there is no role of priesthood.. the sacrifices were ended ..Christ was the final sacrifice . There is no more sacrifice for sin.. there is no longer a need for a priesthood..and so there is none allowed for
There are no letters that are proven to be authentic...There is just not quite enough evidence to trash all of them but many scholars suspect the authenticity of all of Ignatius' letters...
This from a member of a church that teaches bowing down to idols, praying to the dead, works buying salvation, works of one person can be applied to another, and the continual need for grace refills. Thank you.
I’ll stick with what Scripture teaches rather than the garbage taught by a bunch of fools who don’t have enough sense to hold to Scripture as the rule of their faith.
Well put.
> “The ‘grass’... NOW I get it.
Pentecostalism makes a whole lot more sense now.”
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For your edification, most Pentecostals eschew even the consumption of alcohol.
My Grandmother (wife of a Pentecostal Minister) was a founding member of the WCTU.
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Are you saying the priest referenced earlier in post 11,345 as a fine example of a Charismatic Christian, smokes dope?
Hundreds of times per day and only to the Father? Let's see; assuming that you take 8 hours for sleep and assuming 200 per day (hundreds, remember), that leaves us with 12.5 prayers per hour (minimum), or, a prayer every five minutes. For your entire waking existence.
With claims like this, no wonder you're not Christian. Have you graduated from the Dr. Eckleburg School of Exaggerated Counting?
well priests can drink and they can chew and they go out with the “girls” who do
Actually I buried my 51 year old nephew today, the 4th child my sister in law has lost.. ...So this Harpy ...was not around .
Maui Wowee? What brand of rolling papers do they have?
You need to stay consistent. Either Christ's words were part of the Old Testament and directed only at the Jews or they weren't.
Well, a couple of hedges and cavils and squirms.
First, as a rule, things don’t get addressed in councils or by the Pope unless there is a controversy. The Catholic Church is way more bottom up than the other side understands.
So a quick tour through the relevant wiki pages leads one to think that there never was a need for a pronouncement from on high. Augustine of Hippo promulgated a canon for his diocese in 393, which was, as far as I can tell, the Catholic Bible as it is today. Pope Damasus MAY have done the same in Rome in 382. But in any event, not counting the Marcionite canon, there wasn’t a need for an ‘official’ pronouncement.
But the ‘foolishness’, especially about what came to be called ‘the Real Presence’ arose at least by the 2nd century.
I’m not saying I’m right and you’re wrong. I am saying that IF one takes a view of the Catholic Church as a top down dictatorial sort of thing, then one would expect that there would be pronouncements and decisions all over the place and scribes to keep track of them — and that this would have started right away — or, say, by the end of the first century.
But my untutored impression is that it’s quite different. Sometime it would be nice to have a few control freaks at the helm. But it really seems to be more a case of the “higher ups” shuffling as much as they can DOWN the line. This is even true in our parish where the past two priests allegedly in charge of our RCIA program sort of showed up now and again, but mostly left it all to the DRE and a little to me.
My point (and I do have one) is the absence of a Papal declaration or a conciliar constitution doesn’t mean a thing hasn’t been resolved. It may be evidence that it was so well resolved that there was no need for an official statement.
Hmmm, seems to say that the holy scriptures ALONE are able to make one wise unto salvation. Because they lead to faith which is in Christ Jesus.
Until YOU can prove that scripture along with tradition or doctrines of men can make one wise unto salvation, I don't think anyone other than the devoted anti-protestants are going to pay you anymind when you either demand answers or offer Catholic "proof".
You’re depending on a “hermeneutic of rupture” — we see a “hermeneutic of continuity,” which flows from the Oneness of God, the oneness of Truth.
1John 5:7-8
7] For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. [8] And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
Correct; there are some verses that approach this in the Gospel according to John.
And many ‘modern’ Bibles omit these verses.
I try to stay away from non Christian Bibles.
Is that before, during or after you break the Second Greatest Commandment hundreds of times each day?
Then you shouldn't have any problem providing links from three recognized Biblical scholars who can attest to this.
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