Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
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Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
Sadly, they forgot to plug their iron in...
If taken literally, the only requisite is charity towards those in need.
Which false claim? You and the Unitarian group don’t agree with us (NL, me and MetMom) on the Trinity and the Divinity of Christ, right?
Paranoia is treatable.
So really anyone can get to heaven by just living the Golden rule of Matt 25, correct?Where did Christ say that?
Matt 25 Is continually quoted to us as the Gospel. If read literally, salvation is a reward for those who help the needy.
Is that the Gospel for Catholics?
As RC's have repeatedly shown they don't even teach The Gospel in the RCC. Instead a systematic theology has been created that teaches the individual RC to be dependent upon this church and it's hierarchy for all things, including what the individual RC is allowed to think.
WM: "garbage taught by a bunch of fools"
What else would you call a group of people who believe custom is equal to or greater than the inerrant Word of God?
I wonder how that would sit with the various Hyacinth Buckets that lurk in the Reformed shrubberies. Can you imagine them thinking of their henpecked men enjoying a free bar and hookers? That would drive them out of their canary-sized minds...
If taken literally, the only requisite is charity towards those in need.
That is a significant portion of the Gospel message, but it is not complete in itself, obviously. The earliest Christians took the Beatitudes, for instance, as the core of the Gospel message, but there were other emphases such as the faith of the believers, the life, death, resurrection and ascension of Jesus, the hope of eternal salvation and the emerging realization of Jesus as God.
I dunno. We have no Lectionary nor a central authority which we must obey.
If your concern is getting the most amount of [Christian] scripture read in church, aren't you in the wrong church?
Or is this not your real concern?
My concern was that the truth be told. It wasn't.
That is an idiotic conclusion. How do you expect anyone to take you seriously? You and your anti-Catholic cabal need to huddle up and get your stories straight.
The Gospels are the foundation of Catholic dogma. On a daily basis Catholics are criticized in this forum by the various and assorted reformist cults, cliques, covens, heresies and denominations for placing too great an emphasis on the Gospels at the expense of the letters of Paul and the Old Testament.
No. The real question is the truth, not a smokescreen.
Smoke away.
About the amount of scripture read at Mass.
Ok.
Would the truth be: A great deal more than at your church?
Whatever you say. :-)
How's that working for ya?
UU World: In 1997, the Unitarian Universalist Association surveyed more than 8,000 active UUs and found that humanists — a category that includes agnostics and atheists — constituted 46 percent of the membership.
I made no claims. I have nothing to defend.
That's one way to describe it.
And it explains why there are only attacks.
Ahhh. Refreshing honesty.
FWIW I don't believe we should depend on any one but ourselves for Scripture.
I don't know if Cronos misspoke or intentionally misinformed, or even what the point he was trying to make really is. My point is that you seem to be fighting over a meaningless point. It doesn't matter a whit nor diminish the richness and completeness of the Catholic Mass and Lectionary and Liturgical calendar.
The root of the Christian theology and Catholic dogma is the Gospels, 95% of which are read over a two year period. Select versus from the introduction to the Gospels, the old testament, and select versus from the epilogue to the Gospels, the Letters of Paul, are read to the degree they lend clarity and context to the Gospels. All are followed by a homily that ties them all together. They are not presented out of context like most Protestant services and expounded on in some perverse attempt to unlock their hidden meanings and reveal it only to those lucky enough to have hired the Rev. Billy-Bob Rolex.
LOL, Gnostics precede Christians. I guess you missed class that day... :)
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