Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
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Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
What they believed and what you say they believed may be two different things...But regardless, completely understanding the nature of the Trinity has nothing to do with becoming a Christian...
If these folks trusted Jesus for their salvation based on Grace without works, they are the Christians that existed before 1600...And compared to the number of Catholics, there weren't very many of them...
Non Catholic bible only Christianity did not start with Luther or the Reformation...It has existed since the time of the Cross...
The Reformation was the Catholic church split where some Catholics chose to get back to the scriptures...
You, my friend, have gone off the deep end. How much hate must one harbor to make such an utterly false statement seem appropriate in defense of Christianity?
“The “spilling of Christ’s blood” was not an event but the culmination of a process that began in the Beginning.”
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Sorry, no!
His blood was not spilled until the day of the crucifixion.
I know Catholics love the twisty-twiney story telling, but this is where the falsehoods have to stop.
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Hey, Mark!
Did you know that you not only worship Mary, but you also worship the Pope?
You learn something new every day!
No point in praying then, eh??? God doesn't answer prayer for you guys???
First, you were the one who claimed that Hinn never violated any Biblical commandments. He clearly has. That makes you out to be wrong once in your post. Second, there are no Catholics who worship the Pope. Third, how has the Pope personally sheltered pedophiles? Has he brought them into his apartment to stay with him? No? Three points made and three points wrong. About average for your posts on this thread.
There is your shark!
Rather, there is your goldfish .
I think we’re seeing another instance of dualistic and gnostic religion here. I am so grateful to these threads sometimes. I learn so much.
That His blood would be spilled was known from the Beginning of time and the action was set in motion when Mary Immaculately conceived Him. The cross was not the first time Jesus had shed blood. As a Jew he was circumcised. In Gethsemane he sweated blood. He was scourged. All in fulfillment of the Scriptures.
A worshipper of the pederast Pope has the audacity to call King James a pederast?
Astounding!
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The courts of Germany disagree.
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I'm not aware of Bible denying Catholics. I see, however, parading proudly up and down this thread, Paulicians who deny most of Scripture and some who ally with those who call the Gospel of Jesus Christ irrelevant to Christians.
And I responded exactly to your failure to understand the Lord’s recorded words.
Yes, and tomorrow when you have gas pains, you'll interpret them differently again. If you guys understood them correctly, there would be no denominations, no non denominationals and no independent churches. Instead, you have created a landscape littered with liturgical illiterates who create their own gods for themselves.
It was what you posted that was ignorant.
2 Thessalonians 2: 15 Therefore, brothers, stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught, either by an oral statement or by a letter of ours. 8 16 May our Lord Jesus Christ himself and God our Father, who has loved us and given us everlasting encouragement and good hope through his grace, 17 encourage your hearts and strengthen them in every good deed and word.
I'll hang onto the "ignorance", as you put it, of Christian belief, and you hang on to whatever it is that you might dig out of your teeth after a gristly meal.
> “As a Jew he was circumcised.”
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And a little reading of Talmud will tell you that circumcision on the 8th day rarely results in visible bleeding.
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> “In Gethsemane he sweated blood.”
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No again! - He sweated “as though it were drops of blood.”
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> “He was scourged”
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On the day of the crucifixion.
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When you dig your theology out of your navel or from between your teeth with the aid of some special mushrooms, you are a greater authority than even Jesus Christ Himself on Christianity, doncha know? You never know which of these guys will be the successor to Joseph Smith. I'll bet after the next trip, the theology changes yet again.
Blessed are you when men revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for so men persecuted the prophets who were before you.This is the crowning beatitude. Congratulations!
And, as so many threads have made so very evident, "They know not what they do." It is not SO hard to pray for mercy for them.
Firstly, no Catholic worships any Pope. Secondly, the Pope is not a pederast. Thirdly, James publically paraded his male lovers in his court and on the streets. Is your knowledge of history equivalent to your knowledge of Scripture?
> “When you dig your theology out of your navel or from between your teeth with the aid of some special mushrooms, you are a greater authority than even Jesus Christ Himself on Christianity, doncha know?”
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I should have read this before my previous post; I would have known ‘what’ your secret was.
Give it up, its illegal.
> “Thirdly, James publically paraded his male lovers in his court and on the streets”
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That absurd statement characterizes you as well as any that you have posted.
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I'm not the one posting the results of hallucinations.
All you post is raging nonsense.
I'm having fun; hardly rage. Christianity is often termed nonsense by pagans. Do you have anything else?
Your wild empty accusations would seem to be great comedy were it not so apparent that you’ve come to believe that rubbish.
Sorry, I should have prefaced that with "intelligible". Apparently not...
Yes, of course.
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