Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
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Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
I'll nominate: “Jesus’ body carried God.”
Last year several RCs spent days defending the extra (and incorrect) “e” in judgEment.”
Gibberish.
Then what does "Your post is gibberish" reveal? Since you wrote it, you can explain it.
Don't make this thread about individuals, Judith. Your tendency is to do that, and it's against the rules.
Gibberish as in “an incorrect understanding of the Trinity”?
It "reveals" that Mark's post was gibberish.
“Gibberish” as in your bizarre statement seemed to be your own concoction yet you attributed it to others.
After nine years one would think a poster could do better than "Your post is gibberish." Alas, no.
I realize that a lot of what I post is directly from the Holy Scripture. Not all of it, however. Actually, the culturally correct "Pride goeth before a fall" is not a biblical statement, but closely resembles one. That is undoubtedly why you are so confused.
I call them as I see them.
Do you even know what the topic of those posts is? Or are you just commenting without a knowledge of what’s being discussed?
Referencing your post 10465, Don't make this thread about individuals, "Doctor". Your tendency is to do that, and it's against the rules.
No, it's not mine.
By bizarre, are you saying "Jesus body carried God" would would illustrate an incorrect understanding of the Trinity?
What about post 10465?
You wrote it. I referenced it, in my comment. Do you know what you wrote?
As it stands, regarding the Trinity, the "quotation" you provided is gibberish.
Roman Catholic apologists cannot defend their faith from Scripture, therefore they find it difficult to debate something specific.
So instead they work to deflect the discussion into gibberish.
Clearly, you don't give any evidence of knowing what is being discussed.
I'm glad you enjoyed my line enough to use it yourself.
Maybe it will become habitual.
I have read this and now am on to investigate this history as presented...what source where you located this? Is there a link?
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