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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; MarkBsnr
where the "reformed" have an incorrect understanding of the Trinity,

I'll nominate: “Jesus’ body carried God.”

10,461 posted on 10/11/2010 10:30:11 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: metmom

Last year several RCs spent days defending the extra (and incorrect) “e” in judgEment.”


10,462 posted on 10/11/2010 10:30:28 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: D-fendr

Gibberish.


10,463 posted on 10/11/2010 10:32:56 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Your post reveals where you fall.

Then what does "Your post is gibberish" reveal? Since you wrote it, you can explain it.

10,464 posted on 10/11/2010 10:34:02 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Judith Anne
Oh, PLEASE tell me you "display that salvation."

Don't make this thread about individuals, Judith. Your tendency is to do that, and it's against the rules.

10,465 posted on 10/11/2010 10:34:33 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Gibberish as in “an incorrect understanding of the Trinity”?


10,466 posted on 10/11/2010 10:35:04 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Judith Anne
Then what does "Your post is gibberish" reveal?

It "reveals" that Mark's post was gibberish.

10,467 posted on 10/11/2010 10:35:52 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: D-fendr

“Gibberish” as in your bizarre statement seemed to be your own concoction yet you attributed it to others.


10,468 posted on 10/11/2010 10:37:18 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; D-fendr
lol. The above type of post is common among newbies who haven't yet learned more is required of them than a simple "I like my words better so you're wrong."

After nine years one would think a poster could do better than "Your post is gibberish." Alas, no.

10,469 posted on 10/11/2010 10:37:52 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: metmom
It’s wrong.

I realize that a lot of what I post is directly from the Holy Scripture. Not all of it, however. Actually, the culturally correct "Pride goeth before a fall" is not a biblical statement, but closely resembles one. That is undoubtedly why you are so confused.

10,470 posted on 10/11/2010 10:41:24 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Judith Anne

I call them as I see them.

Do you even know what the topic of those posts is? Or are you just commenting without a knowledge of what’s being discussed?


10,471 posted on 10/11/2010 10:42:48 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Do you even know what the topic of those posts is? Or are you just commenting without a knowledge of what’s being discussed?

Referencing your post 10465, Don't make this thread about individuals, "Doctor". Your tendency is to do that, and it's against the rules.

10,472 posted on 10/11/2010 10:47:01 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
your bizarre statement seemed to be your own concoction yet you attributed it to others.

No, it's not mine.

By bizarre, are you saying "Jesus body carried God" would would illustrate an incorrect understanding of the Trinity?

10,473 posted on 10/11/2010 10:47:41 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Natural Law
you do need to get past arguing about who is right and begin to search for what is right. That shoe fits many feet here.
10,474 posted on 10/11/2010 10:47:43 PM PDT by caww
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To: Judith Anne

What about post 10465?


10,475 posted on 10/11/2010 10:47:55 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
What about post 10465?

You wrote it. I referenced it, in my comment. Do you know what you wrote?

10,476 posted on 10/11/2010 10:51:31 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: D-fendr
Roman Catholics are fond of posting unattributed quotations and then stating they prove something to someone.

As it stands, regarding the Trinity, the "quotation" you provided is gibberish.

Roman Catholic apologists cannot defend their faith from Scripture, therefore they find it difficult to debate something specific.

So instead they work to deflect the discussion into gibberish.

10,477 posted on 10/11/2010 10:51:54 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Judith Anne
What are you taking exception to being called "gibberish?"

Clearly, you don't give any evidence of knowing what is being discussed.

10,478 posted on 10/11/2010 10:53:11 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Judith Anne
Your tendency is to do that, and it's against the rules.

I'm glad you enjoyed my line enough to use it yourself.

Maybe it will become habitual.

10,479 posted on 10/11/2010 10:55:14 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Legatus

I have read this and now am on to investigate this history as presented...what source where you located this? Is there a link?


10,480 posted on 10/11/2010 10:55:31 PM PDT by caww
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