Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
Very true, Forest Keeper. It's pretty astounding how easily FRoman Catholics dismiss the rest of the Bible. They don't have a defense of their faith based on Scripture, so they have to resort to wrongly believing the Christian faith is confined to Matthew 5. They do not understand Christ is speaking to believers here. He's telling them that since they have been given faith to believe in Him they will now live a life that glorifies Him.
This oft expressed Catholic idea is so at odds with their own Catechism that they do not need any help from us in discrediting it. So many FRoman Catholics treat the Bible in direct contravention to their own CCC that I hardly even take it seriously as a Catholic authority anymore.
Apparently the RCC catechism is a malleable as any other liberal document.
I wouldn't be so quick to laugh at God. Jesus, the Word, became incarnate to be our model of holiness. On the Mountain of the Transfiguration, God commanded: "Listen to him!.
Jesus said: "Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me." "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but by me." and gave us the Beatitudes.
Jesus is the model for the Beatitudes and of the New Covenant: "Love one another as I have loved you." This love requires an honest offering of oneself after His example.
Those of us who believe in Beatitude and are on this "narrower" path encourage our brethren by example, and bear striking witness "that the world cannot be transfigured and offered to God without the spirit of the beatitudes. Some live their situation in the spirit of the Beatitudes, loving God and serving our neighbors as we would be served. Others choose a different path as Original Sin permits.
Only to the moron, the simple and the unlettered
Christians discuss the issues; fools call people names.
Your post reveals where you fall.
Learn the difference.
No, and apparently you don't either.
Do not pretend to lecture me. I can't take seriously those who wear their bizarre belief systems as a mark of individuality like some horrid hat or tie. I have seen nothing in any of your posts that would indicate you know the difference between grace and works or between the Old and New Testaments.
The Calvinist creed is not based upon the Gospels. It proclaims Christ in name only, but disregards His teachings, interpreting them bassackwards through the letters of Paul and the musings and fever dreams of Reformist would be apostles and popes. Whatever it may be it certainly isn't Christian.
I would admonish you to learn the difference, but I seriously doubt you have the desire or capacity.
Your proof contradicted your original statement. Recognizing this is sufficient. I have little use for or desire in further effort determining which of the two is your real position.
lol. The above type of post is common among newbies who haven't yet learned more is required of them than a simple "I like my words better so you're wrong."
Who's pretending?
Forget already? It was you.
I just read, on the Vatican site, a writer who said the same thing. It's interesting the various opinions catholics have about Rome says or not.
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
Hurl? I thought I was typing it.
You are giving me the impression that Catholic women are vexatious ;)
I have no control over your thoughts. Think as you please. ;-D
Clearly, FRoman Catholics hold a variety of conflicting views.
Stating that "pride goeth before a fall" is not scripturally illiterate. It's a common statement. Are you really that culturally illiterate?
8~)
Simple is best and sufficient here.
thanks for your reply.
It’s wrong.
If everyone else jumped off a cliff, would you too?
Should I thank you for your non-reply?
Oh, PLEASE tell me you "display that salvation."
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