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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
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To: Legatus

Bwaaaa!!

Thank you. I would have replied sooner, but was overcome with uncontrollable bowing and kneeling before the photo of your most excellent idolatorium.

[ I *must* warn you though, from personal experience.: Be careful of Horus...]


10,021 posted on 10/10/2010 8:58:18 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: RnMomof7; Natural Law
Grace is Gods unmerited favor ...Who could refuse the gracious love gift of God? Who would desire to?

Satan, to start.

10,022 posted on 10/10/2010 8:58:32 PM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: Legatus
Very nice.

When I kneel, I can't tell if I'm praying to the bed or the dry-wall.

10,023 posted on 10/10/2010 9:04:09 PM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: Natural Law; Al Hitan; RnMomof7
NL: Is preaching limited to a recitation of the written Scripture or does it (should it) include a demonstration of actually living the Scriptures?

RN: Works never saved anyone.

Sounds like if someone is smacking their spouse around and saying "I love you" with every blow, the person being smacked is supposed to believe that they are loved ignore the blows and bruises because it's all about the preaching not the works. Goes back to once saved. In the real world lip-service doesn't really matter if your actions are horrid. You become only a stumbling block.

10,024 posted on 10/10/2010 9:10:25 PM PDT by Jaded (Stumbling blocks ALL AROUND, some of them camouflaged well. My toes hurt, but I got past them.)
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To: D-fendr
[ I *must* warn you though, from personal experience.: Be careful of Horus...]

If it weren’t for my horus, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college.

[oh PLEEEEEEASE I hope people get the reference]

10,025 posted on 10/10/2010 9:10:58 PM PDT by Legatus (Keep calm and carry on)
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To: Al Hitan

But, but I thought they said that God preordained a few people over the entire expanse of time before time and every one else was condemned to hell no matter what the elect people said to them.


10,026 posted on 10/10/2010 9:14:10 PM PDT by Jaded (Stumbling blocks ALL AROUND, some of them camouflaged well. My toes hurt, but I got past them.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Lift high the cross. Period.


10,027 posted on 10/10/2010 9:16:29 PM PDT by bonfire (ou)
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To: Quix

Thank you for sharing your insights, dear brother in Christ!


10,028 posted on 10/10/2010 9:21:16 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Jaded; RnMomof7; Natural Law
This gets stranger and stranger. So, you have to just preach it, not live it.

Isn't that how you end up with pillars of the Protestant community like Jim Baker, J. Swaggart, and John Calvin?

10,029 posted on 10/10/2010 9:42:36 PM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: RnMomof7
Does one kneel before one they do not worship?

Yes.

10,030 posted on 10/10/2010 9:52:17 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Running On Empty; RnMomof7
Supposedly it’s to “rescue” us—or move us to “repent” as we are frequently told to do by some FReformeds.

And yes, I have often wondered where they “come up with this stuff.” On the authority of some church leader? Some religious commentator? some shameful comic books? some self-appointed theologian? There has to be some source of their own brand of magisterium.

You can't figure out where we get the idea of repenting?

Don't read Scripture very much, do you?

Repentance is not a new concept and not one thought up by the *Reformers*. If you have issues with that command, you'll have to take it up with God.

10,031 posted on 10/10/2010 10:04:46 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Do you understand the difference between admiring a statue of a dead person and praying to a statue of a dead person?

I would hazard a guess that not one Catholic in a hundred grasps the distinction.

10,032 posted on 10/10/2010 10:11:40 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Another twisted post.

RMf7:“To Catholics Jesus died to make open the gates of heaven so men could save themselves” Now, this is a complete falsehood, that has nothing to do with Catholic beliefs.

ROE responds in 9883: I’m so weary of these false posts about Catholicism.

I simply can’t understand how any true happiness can result from this ongoing disparegement about Catholicism.

Supposedly it’s to “rescue” us—or move us to “repent” as we are frequently told to do by some FReformeds.

And yes, I have often wondered where they “come up with this stuff.”

MM then asks a completely irrelevant question having nothing to do with the comments she is supposedly responding to: “You can’t figure out where we get the idea of repenting? Don’t read Scripture very much, do you?

My comment: This is the exact illustration why it is completely futile to attempt any discussion with the reformed. Not only do they fail to read before responding, they can’t understand the miniscule amound they DO read.


10,033 posted on 10/10/2010 10:21:42 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: metmom; Dr. Eckleburg

Here’s another filthy example of the Reformed Reasoning:

Dr. E in 9956: “Do you understand the difference between admiring a statue of a dead person and praying to a statue of a dead person?”

MM in 10,032: I would hazard a guess that not one Catholic in a hundred grasps the distinction

My comment: This is another perfect example of the arrogant hubris of the Reformed, perfectly expressed by someone who has NO idea about Catholicism while pretending to have grown up in a Catholic environment. Clearly, that was not the case, either that or the poster learned absolutely nothing when the opportunity existed.


10,034 posted on 10/10/2010 10:27:23 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Legatus

I hope you don’t let the kids listen to Lewis Black!


10,035 posted on 10/10/2010 10:28:29 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: Judith Anne
Nonsense Judith....everybody of all faiths and those with none all understand perfectly the difference...those who do not are those who practice bowing and praying before a statue. It's a crutch clearly, for a lack of faith.
10,036 posted on 10/10/2010 10:33:34 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

You might as well say praying is a crutch for lack of faith.

I think you just did.


10,037 posted on 10/10/2010 10:41:29 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: caww; metmom
Nonsense Judith....everybody of all faiths and those with none all understand perfectly the difference...those who do not are those who practice bowing and praying before a statue. It's a crutch clearly, for a lack of faith.

What's the nonsense? I agree with you, but according to MM in 10,032, not one in a hundred Catholics understand the difference. Clearly she has no experience with Catholics. And I would caution that anyone who thinks Catholics don't know the difference, that pride goeth before a fall.

10,038 posted on 10/10/2010 10:41:39 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Judith Anne

I think we could paraphrase the reformed response as:

“I don’t know an idol from an icon, but I know a Catholic when I see one.”


10,039 posted on 10/10/2010 10:58:59 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

ROFL! Yes, well said. ;-D


10,040 posted on 10/10/2010 11:00:05 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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