Posted on 08/14/2010 7:48:29 PM PDT by markomalley
Read Genesis — Enoch walked with God and was not seen again.
Read 2nd Kings” or is it first Kings and Elisha see Elijah go up to heaven in a flaming chairot and horses and whirlwind.
Read Matthew — at the moment of Christ’s death, as the sanctuary veil was torn in half — bodies emerged from their graves and roamed through Jerusalem, visible to many. They certainly did not go back into the graves — didn’t they follow Christ into heaven?
So we have three accounts of bodily assumption into heaven. So why should we NOT believe that Mary, without sin, also was assumed into heaven.
Early Church Fathers relate stories from the apostles how they were all transported to the bedside of Mary as she died from all corners of the earth. Did they also see her assumed into heaven?
Another thing....there have been churches of the Assumption of Mary since the fourth century, even though this is a fairly recent dogma.
My belief — yes, Mary was assumed into heaven. And yes, she sits at the right hand of her Son, Jesus Christ.
[CATHOLIC/ORTHODOX CAUCUS] Assumpta est Maria in cælum!
Why do we believe in the Assumption? (Catholic Caucus)
[CATHOLIC/ORTHODOX CAUCUS] Understanding The Assumption of Mary Into Heaven
Don't Assume the Assumption (Catholic Caucus :-)
Catholic Biblical Apologetics: The Assumption of Mary
Tens of Thousands of Vietnamese Catholics Rally for Religious Freedom on Feast of the Assumption
On Mary, Mother of Priests (Assumption)
The Assumption/Dormition: Mystery of Mary, Meaning of Life
From Eden to Eternity: A Homily on the Solemnity of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary
The Dormition of our Most Holy Lady the Theotokos and Ever Virgin Mary
Solemnity of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary: 15 August [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]
The Assumption and the World by Bishop Fulton J. Sheen
The Early Church Fathers on the Assumption [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]
THE ASSUMPTION OF MARY: A BELIEF SINCE APOSTOLIC TIMES [Ecumenical]
August 15, Feast of the Assumption - Did Mary's Assumption Really Occur? [Ecumenical]
Assumption Sermon of Rev James Bartoloma 8/16/07 (on Summorum Pontificum)
Angelus - Feast of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary (2007)
In Charm City, 100K Have Seen the Light
The Assumption of Our Lady
Solemnity of the Assumption
Solemnity of the Assumption
Mary’s Assumption is hope for today’s society, says Pope
Meditations for this Feast Day of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary
HOMILIES PREACHED BY FATHER ALTIER ON THE FEAST OF THE ASSUMPTION
Why Catholics Believe in the Assumption of Mary
St. John Damascene: Homily 3 on the Assumption/Dormition
St. John Damascene: Homily II on the Assumption/Dormition
St. John Damascene: Homily I on the Assumption/Dormition
Catholic Caucus: The Assumption of Mary - Marcellino D'Ambrosio, PhD
Today's the Feast of the Assumption of Mary into Heaven
Feast of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary, August 15th.
Maronite Catholic: Qolo (Hymn) of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary
St. Gregory Palamas: On the Dormition of Our Supremely Pure Lady Theotokos and Ever-Virgin Mary
Maronite Catholic: Qolo (Hymn) of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary
Catholic Caucus: A NOVENA OF FASTING AND PRAYERS/ASSUMPTION/DORMITION
St. Gregory Palamas: On the Dormition of Our Supremely Pure Lady Theotokos and Ever-Virgin Mary
The Fourth Glorious Mystery
Archbishop Sheen Today! -- The glorious assumption
The Assumption Of The Blessed Virgin Mary Reflections For The Feast 2003
A Homily on the Dormition of Our Supremely Pure Lady Theotokos and Ever-Virgin Mary
The Assumption Of Mary
Great stuff!
Freegards, thanks for all the threads on FR
“She is dead and all those who died post crucifixion are sleeping, waiting for the final trump.”
So when you say the creed, do you leave the Communion of the Saints part out or what?
Freegards
Since we —in accordance with our physics—must think in terms of Time-space, and since we believe in the “kingdom of God,” and in the Resurrecetion of the Dead, heaven is that” place “ where Jesus “awaits” us as judge. and where our dead are with him as spirits and potentially/accualy as bodies as well. They are there beyond that event we call the Resurrection and are—in a way—”already” resurrected and joined again with their bodies.
“Since we —in accordance with our physics—must think in terms of Time-space...”
I bet a lot of the Saints had glimpses or more than glimpses beyond our reality by the Grace of the Holy Spirit, and that is why they seemed by many to be at times removed from the normal and every-day life of others.
Freegards
The reason that the Bible says nothing further about Mary is because the Church does not include in the canon writings that speak further of Mary. The “irrelevant” part is your opinion, and in Catholic terms what you say is heresy. From the time of Arius, even before, but most famously, from his time, because his heresy was the cause of the Nicene Creed, men who reduce Jesus to something less than that creed says he is have always spoken slightingly of Mary. Arius tried to make Jesus fit the categories of Greek Philosophy. But the Greeks could find no place for a statements like” Jesus is God. “ That was because Jesus was a man born of woman. Mary was thus just the mother of a man, and therefor of no account. But as John says. in the beginning the Word was made flesh, that exaults Mary. When he goes on to say that the Word was God, that makes her “theotokos.” The flesh he took over was hers, and somehow when men looked on his face, they were seeing God face to face, and that face resembled Mary’s. And because Mary was a Jew, it was a Jewish face, and Mary was Israel presenting the One God to all mankind. To say that Mary is “irrelevant” is to say that the body of Jesus was irrelevant once he died, and that the Resurrected Christ was essentially unrelated to the Jewish man Jesus.
It seems to have happened to St. Thomas. He had a glimpse that, as he said, made all his writings seem like straw.
And the same Church that “underwrites” the canon, says otherwise.
So would you like to be on the Catholic ping list?
You would have no knowledge of the heavenly Father except for them.
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