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1 posted on 08/14/2010 7:48:30 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Read Genesis — Enoch walked with God and was not seen again.

Read 2nd Kings” or is it first Kings and Elisha see Elijah go up to heaven in a flaming chairot and horses and whirlwind.

Read Matthew — at the moment of Christ’s death, as the sanctuary veil was torn in half — bodies emerged from their graves and roamed through Jerusalem, visible to many. They certainly did not go back into the graves — didn’t they follow Christ into heaven?

So we have three accounts of bodily assumption into heaven. So why should we NOT believe that Mary, without sin, also was assumed into heaven.

Early Church Fathers relate stories from the apostles how they were all transported to the bedside of Mary as she died from all corners of the earth. Did they also see her assumed into heaven?

Another thing....there have been churches of the Assumption of Mary since the fourth century, even though this is a fairly recent dogma.

My belief — yes, Mary was assumed into heaven. And yes, she sits at the right hand of her Son, Jesus Christ.


2 posted on 08/14/2010 8:13:01 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: markomalley

Great stuff!

Freegards, thanks for all the threads on FR


4 posted on 08/14/2010 8:34:00 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: markomalley

Since we —in accordance with our physics—must think in terms of Time-space, and since we believe in the “kingdom of God,” and in the Resurrecetion of the Dead, heaven is that” place “ where Jesus “awaits” us as judge. and where our dead are with him as spirits and potentially/accualy as bodies as well. They are there beyond that event we call the Resurrection and are—in a way—”already” resurrected and joined again with their bodies.


10 posted on 08/14/2010 9:25:25 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: markomalley

Thanks for this. It really made me think.

Judging from all the removed posts, I must have missed some heated discussion.


34 posted on 08/15/2010 4:08:27 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue
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To: markomalley; Salvation

““Pure one, fill my heart with a merriment, a happiness; bestow on me your spotless joy, for you have given birth to Him who is the cause of joy.””


35 posted on 08/15/2010 5:24:49 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: markomalley

I always figured she was zapped out of our space/time continuum or into another universe.

And like Jesus, or Enoch, or Elijah the body didn’t die but was tranformed into what our bodies will be after the last resurrection.


36 posted on 08/15/2010 3:57:38 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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