[Cronos]

Actually no -- you asked me, if there was a definitive list of Church Fathers. I gave it to you. You then looked up some website that gave some guy's personal opinion on them.

If you do not wish to read them, that's fine -- that's your free choice. However, to understand the life and times of early Christians, you should read them. You can also read the works of Josephus or any of the secular writers (many of whom disliked Christianity) and you will still find descriptions of a Church in organisation and practise that resembles the Catholic/Orthodox/Oriental/Assyrian Church and not any one of the various Presbyterian/Baptist/Pentecostal/Fundamentalist etc. groups (the Lutheran and High Anglican Mass will resemble orthodoxy).


Next, if you ask what were the belief systems followed by the early Christians, you go to the Church Fathers -- or, even better, go to the writings of Babai the Great and the other priests of the Assyrian Church. This Church was separated from the rest of Christendom because it was in the Parthian/Persian Empire who did not want their Christians getting along with Roman Empire Christians. This Church expanded east -- to India, China and even Mongolia (one Mongol tribe, the Naimans who are the predecessors of modern day Kazakhs, WAS Christian until the 14th - 16th centuries)

[boatbums]

Actually no -- you asked me, if there was a definitive list of Church Fathers. I gave it to you. You then looked up some website that gave some guy's personal opinion on them.

I am REALLY getting quite dissappointed in you guys. Why must you think everyone is lying about everything they say? I did not "look up some website" as a response to your post. I saw what I already had saved from two years ago and posted it because it was another view of the "early church fathers" - just like I said I did. Just admit you have a biased view of church history - we ALL do to some extent. And take it easy on the mind-reading and presumed actions and motives of others, it's unseemly.