Posted on 07/18/2010 6:04:05 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Bkaycee: What Sola scriptura is not.
First of all, it is not a claim that the Bible contains all knowledge. The Bible is not exhaustive in every detail. John 21:25 speaks to the fact that there are many things that Jesus said and did that are not recorded in John, or in fact in any book in the world because the whole books of the world could not contain it. But the Bible does not have to be exhaustive to function as the sole rule of faith for the Church.
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cronos: Do the rest of the sola scriptura adherents agree to this? I’m sorry to put you on the spot, bkay, but I have never heard an SS persoan state this
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Works for me. God gave us enough in Scripture to lead us to faith. and live a life of faith.
God’s word is true and the gold standard by which we compare everything else to find out if IT is true or not. If it doesn’t line up with what revealed Scripture shows, it should be rejected as not from God.
That does not allow for the mentality of... *Well, it isn’t mentioned in Scripture therefore it’s true because we said so*, like Mary’s alleged immaculate conception or her assumption, or praying to saints, or purgatory, or any number of other Catholic doctrines and teachings.
There’s plenty of truth in the Bible for us to deal with that will keep any person busy the rest of their lives without adding to it things that are of no consequence.
2 Timothy 3:16-17 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.
The Bible IS enough, contrary to the thinking and teaching of the Catholic church.
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
They meet either at different homes each week, or in the church meeting rooms. Each person takes a turn as facilitator and we study the weeks scripture leading up to the readings and gospel on that week’s Sunday mass.
It is every week, and everyone can join; they are purposely kept between a dozen to 15 members. The times offered vary to accomodate those who work, the community meets at night, or some in the afternoon and some in the morning.
The purpose is not just bible study. There are bible study groups just for that. The purpose of SCC is to apply the scriptures in our lives. Each small community learns in love to care for its members and if one member is ill to take care that member has all he/she needs in the way of help. If there is a death, not only the bereavement committee takes over in helping to plan the funeral, and supply meals, but the small community tends to their needs - babysitting, transportation etc.
SCC takes its applications of scripture into our workplaces and homes and into the community.
John Wayne was higher than a kite when he was baptized by a Catholic priest...
http://books.google.com/books?id=A0wbaa9S53QC&pg=PA322&lpg=PA322&dq=john+wayne+baptized+archbishop+panama&source=bl&ots=u8QC6Xvonk&sig=XC0aXmULk1gMlGYjXUzSzruQQRI&hl=en&ei=WyNVTMLbI9SCnQemgZWKBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10&ved=0CDYQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q&f=false
Oh, if only Google had an advanced search feature which allowed the elimination of redundencies and trash!
Over 8 million references and almost all the same. tch tch.
Here's another one:
I don’t think this is a form of mind reading.
It’s pretty plain that unless you are Catholic, you do not understand us or our belief in the Presence.
Mary was immaculately conceived,
Mary was ever virgin.
Mary was sinless.
Mary was assumed.
To be in full communion with the Church, which is the keeper of the deposit of faith, one must believe these things.
The Church condemns no person to hell.
I'm very glad to hear this and join in earnest prayer for the proliferation of this mission throughout the Catholic assembly around the world.
Praise God!!!
Pardon me if I have less than sanguine view of your approval.
Your brethren leave a great deal to be desired.
Howls, Bruce. Howls of derisive laughter at that nonsensical fabrication.
(Gunther Toody mode ON)
Oooh, Oooh, let me try one. How about this:
Protestants believe that Heaven is actually located on a planet that orbits Rigel.
Wow, that was fun. You can say all kinds of fun stuff if you don’t have the slightest regard for the truth. No wonder you guys do it all day long.
The RCC is patient. Remember, it was not until 1950 that the Assumption Of Mary was declared dogma.
"John Wayne did indeed die in a state of grace, but as a Roman Catholic, not as a just-saved member if Schuler’s Crystal Cathedral congregation. He also hadn’t arrived at this decision straight from a state of total heathenism (he’d been raised Presbyterian, after all)".
In another farcical posting you are trying to disprove the Church's nihil obstat position on Mary using a dubious Seventh-Day Adventist website? This is just another idiotic attempt by anti-catholic Protestants to tell Catholics what we "really" believe because the truth doesn't fit the pamphlet handed out at the last revival meeting.
Sure it does. It's full of anathemas and teaches that the pope and priests have the power to bind and loose people's sins.
And they do it too, when they ex-communicate someone.
Agree.
IMO, Faith is important even in this aspect. Faith that the All Knowing, All Loving God gave us EVERYTHING HE knows we need in HIS WORD. He created us, knows how the human mind thinks/act and has given us a taste of it in both the OT and NT.
Just one example amongst thousands in God’s inspired Word -Peter - He showed us how taking our eyes off of Jesus/The Living Word we stumble. Peter had faith to walk on the water when Jesus was there - actually, Peter was walking on The Word - then he took His eyes off of Jesus/The Living Word. Looking anywhere else but HIS WORD for help or guidance will lead one to stumble. It’s all about Jesus, it’s all about HIS Word.
It’s all about what Jesus DID at the Cross. It’s already finished. Our salvation is complete in what HE DID and we can do NOTHING else to achieve our salvation but accept His Gift already given. Then He gave us the HS as Our Teacher and Comforter. He did it All, He gave it ALL. And that’s the GOOD NEWS!
HIS WORD has it ALL. Anything added is saying Jesus/The Living Word is not enough and deception will follow. And taking one’s eyes off of His Word will cause one to stumble. Both warned about in HIS Word.
Everything God wants us to know, HE preserved through His Word. Some say man tampered with it - again, they are saying God isn’t big enough to preserve HIS OWN WORD. It’s goes right to the heart of one who says such a thing - their God isn’t big enough. MY GOD IS!! Thank you JESUS!
The apostles are the ones referred to in bold. They had nothing to add to Paul. This in itself SHOULD prove to you that Peter was NOT the first pope and did NOT have charge of the universal church. Get it? Peter added NOTHING to Paul. Paul was giving Peter information, not the other way around.
Not really. Paul and the rest of the Apostles were agreeing as to their roles after all these years. Remember that Paul was still very much the outsider and he had a big chip on his shoulder over he, a big time wealthy Pharisee and called specifically by Jesus, having to present bona fides to a bunch of low class fishermen and others well below Paul's class. Paul was a proud man and he fought that pride his whole Christian life.
After all these years of preaching (with whatever information exchange had gone on between Paul and the 12, this was an agreement of scope and territory.
Galatians 2: 7 7 On the contrary, when they saw that I had been entrusted with the gospel to the uncircumcised, just as Peter to the circumcised, 8 for the one who worked in Peter for an apostolate to the circumcised worked also in me for the Gentiles, 9 and when they recognized the grace bestowed upon me, James and Cephas and John, 8 who were reputed to be pillars, gave me and Barnabas their right hands in partnership, that we should go to the Gentiles and they to the circumcised. 10 Only, we were to be mindful of the poor, 9 which is the very thing I was eager to do.
You see, James, Peter and John gave Paul their agreement as to his scope of work and added final instructions as to inclusion of the poor. Paul, even though he resented it tremendously, accepted that he was under the leadership of the Council; he was not leading it, nor giving it instructions.
I will include Iscool as a courtesy on this post, since he has an interest in the role of Paul in the early Church.
What a ridiculous statement.
Christ only washed the feet of His Apostles once, at the Last Supper. Earlier in the Gospels, we hear about the woman who washed his feet with her tears, dried them with her hair and anointed them with expensive oil. It was Judas who objected to this on behalf of the poor.
Millions of Catholics around the world engage in charity feeding, housing, educating and clothing the poor.
Weren't you just telling us that the number of times a reference appeared in Scripture was unimportant? Isn't zero a number?
I'm not certain I said exactly that but I may have. Please show me. I believe I critized the "word count" technique to show the importance of Perer.
However, "never" is not a number.
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