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Alleged Vatican Official Says Extraterrestrials Are Real
The Eponymous Flower ^ | 07/08/2010 | Tancred

Posted on 07/08/2010 8:54:20 AM PDT by 0beron

Edited on 07/08/2010 9:57:44 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

"Vatican Officials" say a lot of things. This man who is said to be an expert in demonology also claims to be an expert on the phenomenon of intelligent extraterrestrial life. We say they are supernatural in origin and the appearance of strange and foreboding lights in the sky are unfavorable signs.

Monsignor Corrado Balducci, a theologian member of the Vatican Curia (governing body), and an insider close to the Pope, has gone on Italiannational television five times, including recent months, to proclaim that extraterrestrial contact is a real phenomenon. Balducci provided an analysis of extraterrestrials that he feels is consistent with the Catholic Church's understanding of theology. Monsignor Balducci emphasizes that extraterrestrial encounters "are NOT demonic, they are NOT due topsychological impairment, they are NOT a case of entity attachment, but these encounters deserve to be studied carefully." Since Monsignor Balducci is a demonology expert and consultant to the Vatican , and since the Catholic Church has historically demonized many new phenomena that were poorly understood, [Like the historical propensity for the press to be leftist deceivers who herald new phenomena like Communism as saviours of mankind.] his stating that the Church does not censure these encounters is all the more remarkable.

Balducci revealed to a visiting American professional that the Vatican is closely following this phenomenon quietly. My informant originally surmised that the Vatican is receiving much information about extraterrestrials and their contacts with humans from its Nunciatures (embassies) in various countries.


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: aliens; angels; corradobalducci; demons; extraterrestrials; napolitano; ufo; ufos
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To: stfassisi
So,there you go! A man made spaceship and alien courtesy of the those wacky communists!

Sure. It's funny that there are those here who distrust the Chicoms completely in every way except for when the Chicoms agree with their pet fantasies and then they are completely on board.

161 posted on 07/10/2010 4:26:14 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Quix
I remain confident that God Almighty could, nevertheless, have raised up a virgin daughter of Jacob from a rock, to fill the role, had Mary declined.

Where do you find those exact that in your Bible?

lets not go round and round on these silly what if's,dear brother.We both know God is ALL KNOWING

162 posted on 07/10/2010 4:41:00 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: stfassisi; All; Las Vegas Dave; DCPatriot; ALASKA; A knight without armor; areafiftyone; aruanan; ..
Here's an interesting interview . . . excerpted as authorized . . . by Linda Moulton Howe . . . the whole thing is available with drawings etc. at this link:

http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1709&category=Real+X-Files

Interview:

Steve Askew, Water Quality Technician, Spokane, Washington: “We heard this SWISSSSHH! sound over the trees. It was like a strong wind came through, but there was no wind. That noise happened for probably about a second.

Jill and I looked at each other and I said I was going outside to see what it was. I walked about 50 feet up into the meadow for a clearer look at the sky and I could not see anything at first. Then all of a sudden, to my left up on top of the ridge, I noticed this light. It was kind of like a red color. I’ve never seen that red before. All of a sudden it went down and then about a minute later, it came back up and I realized this light thing was huge! It covered almost the whole valley!

HOW HIGH WERE YOU ABOVE THE VALLEY FLOOR?

About 800 to 900 feet. I’m looking up at it about 10 degrees. The UFO was probably 500 feet higher than I was.

HOW FAR AWAY FROM YOU?

Maybe 300 feet away and 500 feet above me. It must have been a half-mile wide.

WHAT SHAPE?

Hard to tell, but what I remember is three lights I could see. There was a yellow one – a color I’ve never seen before. And there was a red light and a blue light in colors I had never seen before. And it was in the shape of a triangle. And I’m guessing it had to be a half-mile wide, filling the sky of the valley!

. . .

1988 remote camp site near Eel River outside Leggett in Northern California.
Steve Askew drew himself in a meadow about 50 feet from the tent between
11 and 11:30 PM as he saw a huge, triangle-shaped aerial craft Steve estimated
to be one-half mile wide that “covered almost the whole valley!”
Illustration © 2010 by Steve Askew.

DOES THE TRIANGLE BEGIN TO MOVE TOWARD YOU?

Yes, it does. It’s moving rapidly and all of a sudden it slowed down to a stop right above me.

WHAT DO YOU SEE LOOKING UP?

At first, I saw this thing that covered the whole sky above me and I’m like, ‘Oh, my Lord! This is it!’ I was scared.The starry sky went instant solid black. And I think I yelled, ‘Jill, come out here!’ She said, ‘No way!’

When that craft came over the top of me in the meadow, that happened within a half second from the time it was at the top of the ridge and then down to where I was – really fast! When it stopped, it was probably within another second to when I couldn’t move. I was paralyzed. My girlfriend was paralyzed – she could not move. But we could yell at each other.

 

Chartreuse Green-White Beam Surrounds Steve

. . .

Gigantic triangle-shaped craft blocks out the stars above him as a chartreuse green-white
beam about 30 feet in diameter suddenly drops down from the center of the craft around
Steve as he stood in a meadow near the Eel River outside Leggett, California,
in 1988 a little before midnight. Illustration © 2010 by Steve Askew.

I remember a flash from the bottom of the UFO and then within a second or two, a misty, chartreuse green-white beam came down from underneath the middle of the triangle-shaped craft and was around me in microseconds! I figure the length of the beam from the UFO down to me was about 100 feet.

COULD YOU SEE THROUGH THE BEAM LIKE IT WAS TRANSLUCENT? OR WAS IT OPAQUE AND YOU COULD NOT SEE THROUGH IT?

You could see through the beam. You could pick out the silhouettes of trees. I think it was about 30 feet in diameter.

DID YOU FEEL ANY CHANGE IN TEMPERATURE AS THE BEAM CAME AROUND YOU?

All of a sudden, I’m starting to sweat profusely. Since I wasn’t able to move, I was afraid, so I don’t know if it was because I was scared that I was sweating or if it was caused by the beam that enveloped me.

DO YOU REMEMBER FEELING HOT IN THE BEAM?

Yes, I do.

 

Four Alien Beings Circle Steve in Beam

And then right after the chartreuse beam came down and engulfed me, it might have been a second or two later, these four alien beings showed up in the beam circling around me. They were on the inside of the beam, but near the outside edge of the beam. They were looking at me and I was looking at them. I’m like, ‘Oh, my! They are going to take me.’ Something is going to happen and I could not move. I was scared to death.

DID YOU SEE THE NON-HUMANS COME DOWN THE BEAM?

No.

HOW DID THEY APPEAR AROUND YOU THEN?

I figured they somehow came into that beam like the transformer on Star Trek. They appeared within about 2 seconds – just all of a sudden appeared moving around me - maybe even like a hologram?

WERE THE ALIEN BEINGS MOVING AROUND YOU LIKE A MERRY-GO-ROUND IN FRONT OF YOU?

Exactly.

ARE THEY FLOATING ABOVE THE GROUND IN THE BEAM?

Yes, they are.

HOW TALL WERE THEY?

I figure they were about 5 feet tall because I'm 5-feet-eleven-inches and those aliens seemed to be about a foot off the ground floating around in a circle.

WHAT DID THEY LOOK LIKE?

They looked almost identical. They had long, white hair probably down to their backside. Their face looks like it was from a horror picture. It was kind of like when you look at an x-ray and you see the skeleton all dark and white shades? That’s what it looked like, but still had the long white hair. And they were wearing what looked like black jumpsuits, but the collar was up almost 4 inches and their sleeves were kind of open down to their elbow. I could not tell what they were wearing on their feet because I could not see down. And they were just staring at me.

. . .

Steve Askew also said a nearly exact match to the hair and faces
of the beings encircling him in the chartreuse green beam is the non-human
“Todd” that has white skin and hair played by Christopher Heyerdahl in the
cable TV series, Stargate, on Sci Fi Channel. See Stargate website:  http://stargate.mgm.com/view/othercharacter/10/index.html

DID YOU SEE ANY EMBLEM OR SYMBOL ON WHAT THEY WERE WEARING?

No, I did not.

DESCRIBE THE EYES?

The eyes were not as big as the ones drawn for what is called the Greys. Their eyes were more normal human size, but a little bit bigger. They were kind of like Angelina Jolie eyes.

A LITTLE BIGGER THAN THE AVERAGE HUMAN EYES.

Yes. And the nose was sort of flat. The mouth – the lips were narrow. The teeth, I don’t know if they had any. Their necks were normal length of a human. Their arms were average length. The color of their skin was like a creamish-white color.

. . .

Telepathic Transmission

YOU ARE SEEING FOUR DIFFERENT ENTITIES MOVING LIKE A MERRY-GO-ROUND IN FRONT OF YOU. THEN WHAT HAPPENED NEXT?

It’s hard to say how long – maybe as long as 20 seconds – those alien beings kept staring at me. What I remember is that they were talking to me mind-to-mind, mental telepathy. But to this day, I still don’t remember much of what they said except, ‘We’re not here to harm you.’ If they wanted to harm me, they could have real easily!

SO WHY DO YOU THINK YOU WERE SO AFRAID?

Why was I afraid? Because I’ve never seen this before, never heard of it. The beam was around me, I was paralyzed - what is a person supposed to do? It’s a gut instinct that you are going to be scared.

But after a few seconds, I started to calm down because I started to feel better about the situation. I didn’t feel scared after about five seconds. And then about ten seconds later, they disappeared. The beam was gone and the UFO took off straight up.

AS IT TOOK OFF STRAIGHT UP, WAS IT LIKE A JUMP CUT WHERE THE BLACK DISAPPEARS AND THE STARS ARE BACK?

Correct.

COULD YOU THEN MOVE?

Yes, I could. As soon as the beam left, I fell to the ground. And I said, ‘Oh, my God, what happened?!’ And I hear my girlfriend yelling, ‘Are you OK? Are you OK?’

I said, ‘We’re getting out of here in the morning!’ I went back in the tent and we were up all night talking about what happened.

IS THAT WHEN JILL TOLD YOU SHE COULD NOT MOVE EITHER?

Yes, and she could see the greenish-white beam. There was a little screen window in the tent that she could see up in the trees and see the green beam, but she could not see what was in the beam.

IN YOUR EMAIL TO ME, YOU WROTE:  ‘THE TIME SEEMED TO GO VERY SLOWLY LIKE I WAS IN SLOW MOTION.’

Yeah, it was like slow motion.

. . .

SINCE 1988, HAVE YOU EVER HAD A VIVID DREAM IN WHICH YOU SAW THE ALIEN ‘X-RAY’ FACES?

Well, about two months ago, I had a dream – really a nightmare – and I woke up paralyzed. I was awake and I could not move and there was Something in my room that was totally pitch dark because I have a smoke detector up on the ceiling that emits a green light and I couldn’t even see that! It was pitch black! And I could tell that Something was in my room and I started saying out loud, ‘In Jesus Christ’s blood, go away!’ I was saying every prayer I could. And I just can’t tell you to this day what that was, but it scared me! Now I have my light on in my bedroom because that’s happened to me a couple of times in the last year.

All of a sudden, the darkness goes away and I can relax and I can move. I get up out of my bed and go out on my deck and sit there and look at the stars and wonder, ‘What is going on?’”

[QUIXICATED EMPHASIS ABOVE IN RED.]

Green Beam and White-Haired Non-Humans

© 2010 by Linda Moulton Howe

 

Right after the chartreuse beam came down and engulfed me,
it might have been a second or two later, these four alien beings
showed up in the beam circling around me.”
 
- Steve Askew, Leggett, California

. . .

Back in 1988, not long before he entered college, he and his girlfriend then and now wife, Jill, decided to take up his Leggett, California, uncle's invitation to use a cabin near the Eel River. The spot was so remote and rugged, there were no other structures eastward for probably 50 miles. The afternoon the couple arrived, the temperature was near 90 degrees F. without a breeze. So Steve and Jill decided to pitch a tent in a clear spot not far from the cabin that overlooked a meadow in a narrow valley that Steve estimates was a half-mile wide from ridge to ridge. Their tent was about 900 feet above the valley floor.

Dark came along about 9:30 PM and they decided to go in their tent and do some reading by flashlights. A couple of hours later between 11 to 11:30 PM, the first strangeness in a highly strange night began.


163 posted on 07/10/2010 4:41:50 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: stfassisi

Of course.

Back to your regularly scheduled UFO thread . . .


164 posted on 07/10/2010 4:43:28 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Quix
I love Mary because she is a human created in God’s image.

You can do better than that,dear bother. Stalin,Hitler etc.. and every human was created in God's image.

It would be better to say you love Mary because she perfectly followed God's will

165 posted on 07/10/2010 4:47:35 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: Quix

“”However, it does not matter what they are—all the known ones I’ve read about are clearly in cahoots with the globalists “”

It makes NO sense to me how spaceships and aliens are going to seduce people of the world to obey a world government.

Globalists do not need spaceships and aliens to take control over money and resources .Greed and corruption seems to be working just fine.

No matter anyway! God is on the throne and in control and this world is falling away.

The “ole boy” (the devil) has lost the battle


166 posted on 07/10/2010 5:08:23 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: MarkBsnr
Setting the metaphysics aside, of course.

Just curious...how does a Christian set aside the metaphysical? Isn't it the metaphysical that is reality...and our physical/sensory perception which is the lie?

167 posted on 07/10/2010 5:22:34 PM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (Does building demolition count as a Muslim engineering achievement?)
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To: Quix
If fallen angels are the most likely reality of the ET critters then I fail to see the point of studying them or for even calling them ET. The Bible is clear that their will be major deception as we move towards the end...that “if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect”. Then let's call them what they are...a deception from satan (demons, fallen angels, etc). And if they are then the study of them would be a study of the deception. Our time could be much better used to study the TRUTH rather then the deception. IMHO

God bless

168 posted on 07/10/2010 5:25:20 PM PDT by WorldviewDad (following God instead of culture)
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To: MarkBsnr
Oops...should have included reference.

2 Corinthians 5:7

KJV -- (For we walk by faith, not by sight:)

Vulgate -- Per fidem enim ambulamus et non per speciem (same thing)


169 posted on 07/10/2010 5:33:39 PM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (Does building demolition count as a Muslim engineering achievement?)
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To: MarkBsnr

I understand your questioning of the word. But trust me, I wouldn’t use it if God’s Word didn’t say it!


170 posted on 07/10/2010 5:57:16 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: small voice in the wilderness
The air. Which is Satan's dominion, at this time. Why would we trust anything that appears in the 'air'?

I don't. Every time I see a bird or Cessna I throw rocks at it in the name of Jebus.

171 posted on 07/10/2010 6:02:19 PM PDT by InternetTuffGuy
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To: Quix
Here's an interesting interview . . . excerpted as authorized . . . by Linda Moulton Howe . . . the whole thing is available with drawings etc. at this link: http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1709&category=Real+X-Files

I am not a member, nor do I wish to purchase a membership. It would be interesting to see any photographs or other evidence rather than drawings, as well.

I find it interesting close to end of the posted testimony that even the prayers he was saying did not work and that he there in this state was some time before the phenomenon ended. Is this an indicator that these aliens are not connected to the metaphysical at all, and merely events or beings in the conventional universe?

172 posted on 07/10/2010 6:17:50 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: theKid51

ping


173 posted on 07/10/2010 6:19:41 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Communism has arrived in Washington)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
Just curious...how does a Christian set aside the metaphysical?

My job requires me to be concrete. If I take an engineering project proposal to the Board on metaphysical terms, I would be immediately fired. The house that I (or mostly the bank) owns was built on strictly a physical basis. I could hardly plan the construction on metaphysical terms, could I?

174 posted on 07/10/2010 6:21:24 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: stfassisi

Certainly God is in control and Christ won at the cross and the Resurrection proved He won over death, hell and the grave.

However, Scripture also talks about the GREAT END TIMES DECEPTION.

Many of us speculate that the ET business is smack in the middle of that GREAT DECEPTION.

Some of us believe that Fatima was an early segment of that.

Sure, the greed etc. is doing plenty well for the evil doers.

However, as Ronald Reagan said publically FIVE TIMES—imagine how the world would unify if there was a threat from ET’s.

Many of us are convinced he was signalling what is coming down the Pike.


175 posted on 07/10/2010 6:22:46 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: WorldviewDad

Certainly there is a great chunk of people who need to do just that.

There’s another chunk who will not be reached that way; could not be coerced or enticed or anything else to do so . . .

yet who will pay some attention to the ET thing because it is different, a variation on Sci Fi etc. etc. etc.

Some of us feel called to be ready to reach out to them with understanding and THE TRUTH as well as warning unwitting Christians who might otherwise be seduced by such a slick deception.


176 posted on 07/10/2010 6:25:16 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
Oops...should have included reference. 2 Corinthians 5:7

KJV -- (For we walk by faith, not by sight:)
Vulgate -- Per fidem enim ambulamus et non per speciem (same thing)

I believe in God. I do not believe in space aliens. I have no proof that space aliens exist.

There is the world of faith and the world of knowledge. I believe in God. Since I do not believe in space aliens, and do not have evidence that they exist in space-time, then for me, unless something changes, I will continue to believe in God and not consider the existence of space aliens except as a flight of fancy or science fiction.

177 posted on 07/10/2010 6:27:04 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

INDEED.

I thought it was very telling in the Linda Moulton Howe interview above how the victim’s prayer in Jesus Name brought the whole thing to a rapid halt.

There are some examples where an authentic RELATIONSHIP with Jesus prior to the experience seems to be necessary for such a prayer to be effective.

In many other cases, prayers from years or decades earlier in childhood Sunday School prayed in earnest have halted such goings on instantly.

It does seem to be important for the pray-er to earnestly invest themselves with some energy, if not confidence in the efficacy of the prayer—essentially at least some degree of faith IN JESUS as THE AUTHORITY.

It sometimes appears that the more energy/confidence in praying IN JESUS NAME, the more rapidly the incident is brought to a close.


178 posted on 07/10/2010 6:29:02 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

It is also instructive that scientist researcher Jacque Vallee after considerable long term study concluded that the whole thing is dealing with evil SPIRITUAL entities. This was quite a conclusion for such a professional to come to. It was not greeted warmly by his scientific colleagues.


179 posted on 07/10/2010 6:30:28 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Quix
Some of us believe that Fatima was an early segment of that.

Many people were converted to the Christian Faith because of Fatima.

For someone to attribute Fatima to the work of satan is NO different than the Pharisees attributing Christ;s miracles to the work of satan.

All GOOD things come from Christ! what part of that do you NOT understand?

180 posted on 07/10/2010 6:31:04 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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