"Sorry Reno, your feeble attempt to explain away my behavior or that of some of the other “anti’s” as “spending virtually all of our time ripping the church...” in your post doesn’t wash.
Perhaps you can look up Colofornian's posting history & tell me how often she posts threads about anything but bashing "Mormons". It's easy to do. At the home page, go to the upper right hand corner & type her name in the search & then select "user" from the drop down. This is a conservative & political board & yet I'm not sure I can find any posts from her that doesn't have to do w/ Mormons. Perhaps, but I doubt it. She's one of many examples, but she's a good one.
Now, let's talk about another form of deception. You stated "You and many other mormons won’t engage and debate the information so it gives one the impression, but whose fault is that?
"Many of you mormons hide behind CAUCUS designations, you won’t engage in OPEN forums and claim a 1001 reasons why you won’t, but won’t give 1 reason why you should."
Now, using the same search method aforementioned, research my posts. I think you'll find a plethora of posts debating & defending our beliefs. I don't believe you'll find one post or thread that was a caucus thread from me. I've gone at it w/ the "anti's" on NUMEROUS occasions. And of course, I'm not the only one as I'm sure you know. Delphiuser, & many others used to go at it w/ you guys on a regular basis. Hiding? You seem to be hiding from the truth.
I don't post nearly as often as I used to due to business concerns & the fact that many of the arguments such as the Trinity, grace vs. works etc. seem to have become quite circular in nature. There's not much more to add & this activity can be quite time consuming b/c it usually devolves into me vs. several "anti's" at the same time that use the carpet bombing technique. And of course we often have to deal w/ all the dis/misinformation as myself & Logophile have encountered w/ Reaganaut over just the last couple of days (I referred to that in one of my last posts on this thread)
So, next time you accuse me of something, perhaps you better do your homework first. Just trying to save you some embarrassment.
Do you always misrepresent like this, Reno?
I did exactly as you instructed: First page that popped up was this thread (a Non-Mormon thread)...My posts #55, 379, 544, 558, 578, and 605 were not about Mormonism -- and I don't believe the people I posted to were Mormons.
Then scroll down: Double-digits posting on a thread about Tibet & Buddhism from a July 6 thread.
This is a conservative & political board...
If you want my political comments from June, find a few Sharron Angle threads and look there...I commented extensively in one of them. Or just pull up the very recent Boston Globe article about Mitt Romney. (Romney still qualifies as "political" in your book doesn't he?) And if you don't like the host having a "religion" section, perhaps you can try to do to it what Smith did to the Nauvoo Expositor...'cause I see you've embraced that "root out" spirit of Smith.
Now, let's talk about another form of deception.
Mormonism? Or just your posts? Again, you give us a fresh example:
"Many of you mormons hide behind CAUCUS designations, you won’t engage in OPEN forums and claim a 1001 reasons why you won’t, but won’t give 1 reason why you should." [Szonian]
Your response: I don't believe you'll find ONE POST OR THREAD that was a caucus thread from me.
Hmmm...Less than a week ago -- in fact almost 6 days to the hour...you wrote: "Good posts Rip & Jeff. Could there be a more important time in our history to understand these words?" [post #10, July 1, 2010, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2544884/posts on Ripliancum thread The Constitution--A Glorious Standard (LDS Caucus)] So, Reno, you've just shown the world you not only misrepresent my posting history --I didn't have to go past my own first page to find 16 posts to prove you wrong; you’ve misrepresented your own -- I didn't have to go even a week of your posting history to prove you wrong.
[Perhaps an Inman could post a "double face palm" graphic to match our reaction to your deceptive boldness]
You finally, after Godzilla repeatedly held your foot to the fire, you finally owned up to Godzilla's claim:
Well Godzilla, huge apologies are in store. With my hectic schedule I made the stupid mistake of hastily putting forth a response based on a resource I took as being the JOD, but in fact was a compilation of snipets. Bad mistake on my part & I sincerely apologize for erroneously impugning your post.I have stayed away from these threads largely due a lack of time. I should have done likewise w/ this one. My bad. I haven’t had time to properly research your response, but mine was inappropriate given the circumstances. Our track record led me to respond when I shouldn’t have. Again sincere apologies. Perhaps we can go at it again some day time permitting. I’m currently putting in 14-16 hour days on two new ventures. Multi tasking is not my strong suit. Best wishes for a great week." (Post #199, April 22, 2010 Url: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2497231/posts)
First, you ascribed behaviors to any and all who would discuss mormonism. If you note, I used several disclaimer words so as to not ascribe those behaviors to each and everyone. I was talking about the behaviors demonstrated towards ex-mo's and apostates by quite a few posters, since you wanted to bring up how the TBM's were being treated, I only thought it appropriate to show the opposite side of the coin. Here is your comment to which I was responding…
” I guess what I find most interesting w/ these folks is their insatiable desire to rip the church on a daily basis. They claim to be “Christians” yet spend virtually all their time ripping the church instead of “witnessing” what they believe. Their threads are for the express purpose of tearing down rather than building up based on what they believe.”
Yet, when I offered my point of on the matter…” Yet, I note that when I or another apostate witness what we believe, we are ignored or treated as if we are a petulant child (check your prophets and apostles comments from GC for references) for leaving mormonism.
Sorry Reno, your feeble attempt to explain away my behavior or that of some of the other “anti’s” as “spending virtually all of our time ripping the church...” in your post doesn’t wash.” note the use of the word “my” and "other" in my comment, here is what you’re reply is…
” Perhaps you can look up Colofornian's posting history & tell me how often she posts threads about anything but bashing "Mormons". It's easy to do. At the home page, go to the upper right hand corner & type her name in the search & then select "user" from the drop down. This is a conservative & political board & yet I'm not sure I can find any posts from her that doesn't have to do w/ Mormons. Perhaps, but I doubt it. She's one of many examples, but she's a good one.”
You didn’t address my comments directly, you chose to use Colofornian as an example instead of directly addressing me or my comments, dismissing my point of view on the matter. Are we talking about Colo or us? Why is what Colo posts any of concern of mine? I have no control over what Colo posts. Address your concerns with Colo.
”Now, let's talk about another form of deception.”
Really? Deception? It couldn’t be a simple mistake? It’s all about “lying, misrepresentation, deception, et al”? A few mormons will post (drive by) accusing the posters of doing exactly what you’re stating, yet offer no evidence or when challenged to demonstrate the “deception” will/can not. There are quite a few examples of that. Wouldn’t that be “deception” as well? I didn’t use an absolute, a simple correction or your explanation given towards the end of your recent post would have been in order. No intentional “deception” was intended, maybe a failure to adequately impart meaning.
"Many of you mormons...". I did not state you specifically or ALL, “many”. I based my comment on observations and so used an ambiguous term to avoid painting each and everyone with the attribute. You could have easily said "Not me!" and that would have been the end of that. But the dig just had to be made. Hinting that I'm purposefully lying.
If I was going to behave like you inferred, I would have gone trolling through yours and every other relevant poster’s history to look for stuff to use. I don’t do that nor do I have the time for it.
I’ll ask if not addressing the following was either a dismissal of the subject material or an oversight…
” Any disagreement about mormon doctrine is construed as an attack, as hateful, spiteful, bigoted, etc., etc., ad nauseum. Even the posters get pasted with those labels, yet none of you step in to question the comments of either mormons or your “defenders”. You allow it. Look in the mirror the next time you decide to pontificate about the actions and behaviors of others. Not taking action against abhorrent behavior is the same as being guilty of it.”
And the demeaning tone of your comments is noted, I am, after all, just a lowly apostate.
As for the offer to "save me from embarrassment", thanks, but I'm man enough to admit my mistakes, you can ask a few or do as you suggested, and troll through my posting history to see for yourself.
I'm human, I make mistakes, if folks want to use them as an attempt to humiliate me or demean me, that's on them. Nothing I can do about that.
Point out my errors and I'll either admit to them or correct them to their proper context. No embarrassment involved. Responsibility for one's comments is all.