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To: presently no screen name; Quix; Mad Dawg

“Thank God we have the Mary who was an obedient servant to HIS Word submitted to HIS Will and fulfilling the call on her life. Their Mary is a holy goddess to them - an idol - giving false accolades.”

I’d like to ask a favor: Please realize that Mary, the Mother of God, is not a holy goddess to me. I do not worship her. She was a humble woman, who became (by virtue of her assent to God’s will) the mother of the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Throughout human history, the mother of the King is the Queen Mother. I respect her. I honor her. I ask her for her prayers, because I believe she lives in heaven. It is my belief that she loves everyone who loves her Son.

For you to say she is like a goddes, or idol, is not true; futher, it is unkind to those of us who love her. She is my perfect example of a Christian, pointing us ever toward her Son, Christ Jesus, Risen Son of the Living Almighty God. I ask you in all humility to cease, in His Holy Name.


1,503 posted on 07/09/2010 1:44:05 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Judith Anne; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...
That SOUNDS encouraging . . . at least to a point.

Soooooooooo, in the interest of further TRUTH-IN-BELIEF--EXACTLY WHICH of the following brazenly worshipful adorations do you disagree with? I'd be very thankful to know each and every Roman Catholic et al hereon who disagreed with each of the following.

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Mary is crowned Queen of heaven and earth, dispenser of all graces . . .

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4 - She became Queen of Purgatory, where she exercises her power as mediatrix in behalf of these suffering souls.

5 - She became Queen of us sinners, to assist us through the dangers of this life and to help us in difficulties.

6 - She became the ruler of hell, that trembles at her slightest gaze and is defeated by her power.

"Just as a rock extracted from earth will precipitate into the abyss, so will man, left without Mary's help, quickly slide toward hell." --Richard of St Victor

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Sacred Heart of Jesus, Thy kingdom come; Thy kingdom come through Mary! --Partial Indulgence

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"Mary is the tree of life to those who grasp her, and he is happy who hold her fast." --Prov. 3:18

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1 - "Hail Mary, beloved daughter of the Father, Mother of the Divine Son, Spouse of the Holy Spirit, complement of the most august Trinity!"

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6 - To her was granted grace greater than that conferred upon all others, 'that she might vanquish sin in every respect.' [Qx: I guess Christ's vanquishing sin was unnecessary--or ineffectual without Mary's assistance?]

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7 - "Mary is the dawn of God because, just as the dawn marks the end of darkness and the beginning of day, so Mary indicates the end of vices and the beginning of virtue." [Qx: I guess Christ's conquering on The Cross and HIS conquering trip to hell were unncessary?]

9 - God loved Mary so much that He gave her the keys to His heart. 'No one can go to God without Mary drawing him.' [Qx: I guess Holy Spirit has been relegated to a 'Walter Mitty' role as spouse of Mary? That's SOME POWER to cancel & take over HOLY SPIRIT'S role to draw men to God!]

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4 - "Mary, trusting in the word of the angel, destroyed the sin Eve committed by trusting in the serpent.' [Qx: Evidently, she beat Christ to the job of vanquishing sin!]

5 - "She desired the safety of everyone, went in search of it, and obtained it; it was also through her that this salvation was wrought." [QX: What an unnecessary waste of precious Blood and suffering on THE CROSS!!!/sar]

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10 - "As Noah's Ark saved all the animals that entered it, so Mary saves all the souls that entrust themselves to her care."

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8 - "If she were not so holy as she is, how could God appoint her to be the ladder of Paradise, the advocate of the world, meatrix between HIm and us?"

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4 - "By becoming Mother of God, Mary belongs to the order of hypostatic union; hence she participates IN the infinite sanctity of God."

1,506 posted on 07/09/2010 4:11:34 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Judith Anne
Please realize that Mary, the Mother of God, is not a holy goddess to me.

Is she in her grave right now, awaiting the trumpet call; or is she alive in Heaven?

1,522 posted on 07/09/2010 6:12:39 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Judith Anne; Mad Dawg; caww

........For you to say she is like a goddes, or idol, is not true; futher, it is unkind to those of us who love her.

You know what’s not true? YOUR WORDS. I didn’t say that - Mary is NOT a goddess or an idol but the RCC has made her one and all their minions following suit. Mary had a calling on her life, she accepted the calling and obeyed the calling. Mary was humble, Mary was obedient. If you want to emulate her, OBEY THE WORD!

You say Mary leads you to Jesus. Why does she need to lead you? Are you lost? GET SAVED. Don’t you know THE WAY?

The KING OF KINGS and LORD OF LORDS - is to come. Jesus has not fulfilled that role yet. And He received that title from HIS FATHER before Mary existed.. And when He returns to earth, HE WILL FULFILL the role of THE KING OF KINGS and LORD OF LORDS.

So you can take the Queen crown off of Mary. If you are so into placing crowns on her - why not the crown of thorns? Ashamed of it? It’s not glorious enough?

The Son, Jesus, The Living Word, WAS from the BEGINNING. Was Mary from the beginning?

John 8:58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am.”

He ALWAYS was – He came to earth in a different form. When it was time for God to be made manifest in the FLESH, the HS implanted the seed into the womb of Mary and she bore Jesus, the man. He already existed.
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Jesus came to earth as a man/human to take away man/human’s sins and to reunite us with The Father. And He showed us how man can/should live – by the life He lived while on earth. We are to be more like Him by RENEWING our mind according to His Word to have the mind of Christ. Renewing our mind will kill the sacred cows - your ‘own’ belief system. In His man form here on earth, He should how He expect us to live our life by His example and teachings.

John 17:5 And Father, glorify me NOW in your presence with the glory I HAD with you before the world began.

NOW, Father, bring me into the glory we SHARED before the world began.

He had the glory from the beginning and now He is asking The Father for what He HAD.

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Now on to another issue at hand…… .

Luke 11:27 As Jesus was speaking, a woman in the crowd called out, “God bless your mother—the womb from which you came, and the breasts that nursed you!”

And Jesus CORRECTED her.

Luke 11:28 But he said, Yea RATHER, BLESSED ARE THEY that HEAR the Word of God and KEEP IT.

Rather than what the lady said...”God bless your mother—the womb from which you came, BUT what Jesus said – blessed are they that hear the Word of God and keep it.

So if that woman wanted to be blessed – she heard the word of Jesus she’d have to change her thinking to what Jesus said and not her own thinking about His mother. Otherwise, that woman or anyone who believes as she DID would have an unteachable spirit and certainly not be blessed according to JESUS.

Wonder what response Jesus who have given if she said - she prayed to Mary! WOW! All she said was God bless Your mother and she got a correction.

We are told to pray to the FATHER – just as Jesus did. Jesus showed us how to do everything including WHO to pray to.

For God so loved the world HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON!!

God GAVE us JESUS, OUR Savior - Mary didn’t. Lean not unto your own understanding at least when it pertains to the things of God. It’s His system, not ours.

We are in this mess because satan did that to Eve. We need to learn from Scripture and not repeat what we were warned about. For there is nothing new under the sun – for IT IS WRITTEN.

God designed it all - it HIS PLAN - HIS WAY WORKS. It’s NOT man’s plan!


1,711 posted on 07/09/2010 11:50:16 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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