But you agree that it's all God's doing. How can it be what we want?!? You can't have it both ways. Either God is in charge ro we are. Either it's according to God's paln or our plan. LOL.
The only Freepers I've met who believe in strong determinism were atheists, believing the universe unfolds involuntarily with neither first cause nor final cause. If one knew the initial conditions and rules, one could project every detail of the universe throughout time.
Logically, part of that belief is that the mind is merely an epiphenomenon of the physical brain, a secondary phenomenon which can cause nothing to happen.
In other words, no man is personally responsible for his actions. The person is an illusion. No mind, no soul, no spirit - all illusions. The brain did it, physically and involuntarily.
I have not yet met a Reformed Freeper or any other Christian Freeper who testified to such beliefs.
As with Faith and Works, the Predestination and Free Will debate among Christians is a matter of balancing scales. As for me the bottom line is this:
To God be the glory, not man, never man.
Relationships tend to develop organically as each member responds to the other.
You in effect are insisting that God date-rape you before you agree to get serious with Him. Ain't gonna happen.
Cheers!