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To: Colofornian
Archaeological research in Central America has uncovered extensive evidence of former advanced civilizations. The land area of these advanced civilizations is called Mesoamerica. The Book of Mormon describes advanced civilizations, and the ones in Mesoamerica correspond in dating to those described in the Book of Mormon. Nowhere else on the American continents does an archaeological pattern show such similarities.

The reporting and interpreting of archaeological investigations lags behind the actual discoveries, and archaeologists are usually trying to find what they want to find, overlooking or ignoring what they do not wish to find. I have read the testimony of a Mesoamerican archaeologist who had an encounter with one of the three immortal Nephites mentioned in the Book of Mormon, on a mountain in Mexico that is the real Cumorah mentioned in the Book of Mormon. He was told that the time had not yet come for the records in that mountain to be revealed.

The hill in New York where Moroni buried the gold plates that Joseph Smith would later translate by the power of God was falsely called Cumorah. None of the eight witnesses who handled and hefted those heavy gold plates realized that they had been produced in Mesoamerica in Central America, because the beginnings of archaeological research in that region had not yet been reported to them.

256 posted on 05/27/2010 7:10:09 PM PDT by John McDonnell (Try to hide my candle under a bushel, and it will burn through the bushel.)
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To: John McDonnell

I have read the testimony of a Mesoamerican archaeologist who had an encounter with one of the three immortal Nephites mentioned in the Book of Mormon,
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In the cartoon The Emperor has no Clothes there is a talking llama from that area of the world...

Did your friend ever meet hoim ???

I bet he has lots to tell...


259 posted on 05/27/2010 7:49:10 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: John McDonnell; Godzilla; ejonesie22

He was told that the time had not yet come for the records in that mountain to be revealed.
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Of course not...

That irksome scripture in the Christian Bible must not be translated correctly...

Nothing in all creation is hidden from God’s sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of Him Hebrews 4:13


261 posted on 05/27/2010 7:58:17 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: John McDonnell; Colofornian
The Book of Mormon describes advanced civilizations, and the ones in Mesoamerica correspond in dating to those described in the Book of Mormon.

Dates - yes, but nephites/lamanites not in this space time dimension. None of those civilizations were advanced metallurgically, none had horses, none raised old world crops and no middle eastern-hebraic/egyptian related writings have been found. What has been found has been deciphered and guess what - lots of history of other tribes and cultures - except no lamanites/nephite cultures as described in the bom. It is little wonder that both the Smithsonian Inst and the Nat'l Geographic society are on the record as flat out denying that the bom records any factual history of the new world.

I have read the testimony of a Mesoamerican archaeologist who had an encounter with one of the three immortal Nephites mentioned in the Book of Mormon, on a mountain in Mexico that is the real Cumorah mentioned in the Book of Mormon.

I read that, it was in the copy of the weekly world news were the aliens were shaking hands with Clinton IIRC.

I have read the testimony of a Mesoamerican archaeologist who had an encounter with one of the three immortal Nephites mentioned in the Book of Mormon, on a mountain in Mexico that is the real Cumorah mentioned in the Book of Mormon.

That is probably because none of them handled the plates, let alone physically saw the plates.

265 posted on 05/27/2010 8:40:03 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: John McDonnell

The Book of Mormon describes advanced civilizations, and the ones in Mesoamerica correspond in dating to those described in the Book of Mormon. Nowhere else on the American continents does an archaeological pattern show such similarities.

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Um...NOT EVEN CLOSE. And as a past president of the largest AIA chapter in the country (Archeology Institute of America), I can honestly tell you that your statement would get you laughed out of a MesoAmerican conference.

During a meeting once, with a MesoAmerican archaeologist, a woman brought up Book of Mormon archeology (which is officially considered pseudo-archeology just like Atlantis and Von Daniken) and the archeologist stated he was not familiar with it but there were no Mormon archeologists that were considered peers in the field.


268 posted on 05/27/2010 9:00:50 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: John McDonnell

The reporting and interpreting of archaeological investigations lags behind the actual discoveries, and archaeologists are usually trying to find what they want to find, overlooking or ignoring what they do not wish to find.

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Only by perhaps a couple of years at most. Annual conferences and peer review as well as the internet have GREATLY lessened the time. Also, the current (and has been for SEVERAL decades) method is to catalog and record ALL information, in ALL strata, even if it does not pertain to the current excavation topic or period. This is done specifically so that other scholars have access to the findings. IOW, your statement “overlooking or ignoring what they do not wish to find” is not only blatantly false, but has not been the case since at least the 1930’s and casts aspersions on the ENTIRE discipline.


269 posted on 05/27/2010 9:04:44 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: John McDonnell

I have read the testimony of a Mesoamerican archaeologist who had an encounter with one of the three immortal Nephites mentioned in the Book of Mormon

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ROFLMAO!!! You have to be joking.

BTW, if the 3 nephites are still around then that kinda throws a wrench into the whole ‘universal apostasy’ thing since they would have always held the ‘priesthood’.


270 posted on 05/27/2010 9:05:53 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: John McDonnell
None of the eight witnesses who handled and hefted those heavy gold plates realized that they had been produced in Mesoamerica in Central America, because the beginnings of archaeological research in that region had not yet been reported to them.

Just a bit south of meso-america...


276 posted on 05/28/2010 4:09:13 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...))
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To: John McDonnell; Colofornian; Tennessee Nana
More antiquities theft...


283 posted on 05/28/2010 4:34:22 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Christians: Stand for Christ or stand aside...)
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To: John McDonnell; Godzilla; reaganaut

WHOA! KoolAid Alert!

“The Book of Mormon describes advanced civilizations, and the ones in Mesoamerica correspond in dating to those described in the Book of Mormon.”

How about this...

Since there is no evidence in America for the mormonic verses, let’s shift the playing field to other countries! If you start with the premise that the mormonic verses are true, the only thing missing is anther country that may support what they say.

There is nothing in Mesoamerica that supports the mormonic verses. To say so uses the same eisogesis mormons apply to the Bible, but applied to archeology.

Why don’t you save time and go find some DNA from Mesoamerica and show us that the civilization was Jewish.

Otherwise, it’s all looking at clouds and telling us you see a bunny.

We know it’s a cloud, despite what you claim to see.

ampu


310 posted on 05/28/2010 7:23:18 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: John McDonnell

Mormon Site Muzzles Members

Friday, May 21, 2010

By Julie M. Smith

ST. GEORGE–AP–August 10, 2010– Verna Watkins sits on her threadbare couch clutching a wrinkled tissue. Between sobs, she says, “I consider it the most sacred spiritual experience of my life . . . when the Three Nephites–divine beings–helped me change the tire on my Suburban. I spent two hours writing the story up to post to my Church’s website, and later I found out that they wouldn’t approve it. My own Church rejected the event most important to my faith.”

Ms. Watkins is one of many members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints–commonly known as Mormons–who feels betrayed by their church after it launched a website earlier this summer, but then took it down after only two months. While LDS Church Public Relations officials claimed that the site was removed in anticipation of a redesign, many Church members felt that the real problem was that the website solicited personal religious feelings–what Mormons call a “testimony”–as well as statements on doctrinal matters. When these poured in, Church leaders were overwhelmed by unorthodox material and left with a dilemma: either permit the unapproved material, which violates what they consider their obligation to “keep the doctrine pure,” or disallow their own members’ beliefs. Many Mormons felt betrayed when told by their Church that their beliefs were not approved.

http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2010/05/mormon-site-muzzles-members/


359 posted on 05/28/2010 9:59:44 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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