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The fight over Book of Mormon geography
Mormon Times ^ | May 27, 2010 | Michael DeGroote

Posted on 05/27/2010 6:44:33 AM PDT by Colofornian

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To: ejonesie22

Well none have been on Larry King to tell us about the encounter...

Hey !!! Why havent the 3 NeeHigh childrfen been on Larry King ????

They could do the Talk Showe circuit ...

Plus...have they been paying their 10% tithe all these 2,000 years ???

Oh yeah ??? To whom ??? To where ???


301 posted on 05/28/2010 5:47:38 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Elsie

I thought some wag had posted that junk until he started abusing the locals...


302 posted on 05/28/2010 5:49:11 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: ejonesie22

To trust in previous ignorant rants and simply renew them is on the same order as those who rant about the Arizona Immigration law without having read it.

What is it with Mormons trying to pull the “you are just like liberals” malarkey.
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Well one things for sure...

The post was written by a liberal...

To post ignorant comments about 3 2,000 men who are still alive and demand that we swallow such fantasies is on the same order as Obama lying to us about the contents of the health care bill while demanding we accept it without having read it.


303 posted on 05/28/2010 5:57:24 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Godzilla

Have been working my way through the History of Susquehanna County by Emily Blackman. Much there re:Smith’s diggings. Too my knowledge the Spanish silver mine was never located.
However, much of that County is located in the Marcellus Shale. Natural gas aplenty. Many land owners now leasing/selling land for gas exploration. $$$.


304 posted on 05/28/2010 6:38:15 AM PDT by donozark (Joslyn Elders:"Weese all gonna die ahh sometin'. Sometime!")
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To: restornu
Full statement: Not only have they not apologized there are many who deny it even happened. (IE: here on FR)

"Many" does not mean all.

305 posted on 05/28/2010 6:39:21 AM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: svcw

I am finding interesting today the similar rant: you are a liberal (or some other similar phrase) if you don’t believe the BoM, why are you supporting people like Bakker, there is still never repose to quoting of lds words/videos/direct links. etc. Attack the poster with bogus charges. tsk
Oh, well another day, and the sun is shinning.


306 posted on 05/28/2010 6:48:37 AM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: reaganaut
They still blame the Indians and John D. Lee (who was acting under orders by the Cedar City Bishop and possibly B. Young himself).

The Mormons I know would deny Brigham Young's involvement in the Mountain Meadows Massacre if Brigham Young himself came back to life and confessed.

Actually that is not a topic which we discuss much because I don't think there is any definitive evidence to prove Brigham Young's involvement or approval. I find it difficult to believe that given the iron rule Brigham Young exercised that something this big would have occurred without his knowledge and approval. Besides, it became apparent quickly that my Mormon friends wouldn't accept ANY evidence which implicated Brigham Young.

307 posted on 05/28/2010 6:56:01 AM PDT by CommerceComet
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To: reaganaut; colorcountry

Hey Reaganaut/CC ... blood sacrifice went out when the Romans destroyed the Temple in 70 BC ... the Torah says that sacrifices are only allowed where G-d wants them, not just anywhere, and the Temple is the last place allowed...obviously, that’s why so many Orthodox Jews want to have the Temple rebuilt...magritte


308 posted on 05/28/2010 7:13:53 AM PDT by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
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To: restornu

This reminds me how today that thoes living today need to also make restitution to those blacks that were mistreated by their white ancestors over 200 years ago.
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Yeah what do the mormons plan to do about their long history of racism ???

Briggy Young took black slaves to Utah with him...

Those mormons living today need to also make restitution to those blacks that were mistreated by the white mormon for over 180 years


309 posted on 05/28/2010 7:14:48 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: John McDonnell; Godzilla; reaganaut

WHOA! KoolAid Alert!

“The Book of Mormon describes advanced civilizations, and the ones in Mesoamerica correspond in dating to those described in the Book of Mormon.”

How about this...

Since there is no evidence in America for the mormonic verses, let’s shift the playing field to other countries! If you start with the premise that the mormonic verses are true, the only thing missing is anther country that may support what they say.

There is nothing in Mesoamerica that supports the mormonic verses. To say so uses the same eisogesis mormons apply to the Bible, but applied to archeology.

Why don’t you save time and go find some DNA from Mesoamerica and show us that the civilization was Jewish.

Otherwise, it’s all looking at clouds and telling us you see a bunny.

We know it’s a cloud, despite what you claim to see.

ampu


310 posted on 05/28/2010 7:23:18 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: John McDonnell

“Those who hate the Book of Mormon should at least read it, if for no other reason than to find exactly what, if anything, is wrong with it.”

That is a weak argument. I’ve also not read thousands of other false documents. To know the truth, you need only study what is true. Falsehood, like the mormonic verses, is evident when you know what is true.

It contradicts the Gospel of the Biblical Christ.


311 posted on 05/28/2010 7:28:12 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

But hey, AMPU...

They found the 3 Nephite bunnies...ah men...

Those 2,000 year old ones...

Thats got to count for something...


312 posted on 05/28/2010 7:29:47 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: John McDonnell; Godzilla

They ‘hefted’ a box covered in cloth. They ‘saw’ with their ‘spiritual eyes’.

They never recanted THAT part. But most of them DID recant and say that Smith was either a ‘fallen prophet’ or not a prophet at all.

Finally, Richard LLoyd Anderson’s 1981 book Investigating the Book of Mormon Witnesses is typical LDS faith promoting history and not considered a serious scholarly work.

Come back and play when you have REAL scholarship to show me.

BTW, I have read the BoM cover to cover at least 15 times (more than most LDS I know).

What is wrong with it is it is a fanciful story (with WAAAAYYY to many ‘and it came to pass’es) that tries to pass itself off as a companion to the Bible and will lead many to Hell.

Let see, that makes me 2 for 2.

Next subject?


313 posted on 05/28/2010 7:48:54 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: John McDonnell; Godzilla

BTW, Godzilla has shown he knows more about Mormonism and has studied it in greater depth than most LDS.

But keep trying, you ARE entertaining.


314 posted on 05/28/2010 7:49:54 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: restornu; svcw

This reminds me how today that thoes living today need to also make restitution to those blacks that were mistreated by their white ancestors over 200 years ago.

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No, what the need to apologize for is LYING about the LDS church’s (and leadership’s) role in the MMM, rather than just ‘passing the buck’.

Christians ‘fess up’ to the junk in their church history all the time, the LDS just whitewash it.


315 posted on 05/28/2010 7:51:39 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Elsie; svcw

WHY do you need a hairbrush, you don’t have any HAIR??


316 posted on 05/28/2010 7:52:57 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Elsie; greyfoxx39

Oh Snap!

I think that deserves a t-shirt.


317 posted on 05/28/2010 7:53:37 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Elsie

Good point, that.


318 posted on 05/28/2010 7:54:21 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Elsie

I am hoping he does. (VERY VERY big grin).


319 posted on 05/28/2010 7:55:13 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: ejonesie22

You mean there have been no Archaeologist who have had encounters with immortal Nephites?

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No, but I do know some archeologists who did LSD in the 1960’s. Does that count?


320 posted on 05/28/2010 7:57:08 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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