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To: John McDonnell; Godzilla

They ‘hefted’ a box covered in cloth. They ‘saw’ with their ‘spiritual eyes’.

They never recanted THAT part. But most of them DID recant and say that Smith was either a ‘fallen prophet’ or not a prophet at all.

Finally, Richard LLoyd Anderson’s 1981 book Investigating the Book of Mormon Witnesses is typical LDS faith promoting history and not considered a serious scholarly work.

Come back and play when you have REAL scholarship to show me.

BTW, I have read the BoM cover to cover at least 15 times (more than most LDS I know).

What is wrong with it is it is a fanciful story (with WAAAAYYY to many ‘and it came to pass’es) that tries to pass itself off as a companion to the Bible and will lead many to Hell.

Let see, that makes me 2 for 2.

Next subject?


313 posted on 05/28/2010 7:48:54 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut
What is wrong with it is it is a fanciful story (with WAAAAYYY to many ‘and it came to pass’es) that tries to pass itself off as a companion to the Bible and will lead many to Hell.


341 posted on 05/28/2010 9:16:56 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...))
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To: reaganaut
They ‘hefted’ a box covered in cloth. They ‘saw’ with their ‘spiritual eyes’.

Have you even read the Book of Mormon? In every copy are tesimonies of three witnesses and testimonies of eight witnesses. Are you so ignorant that you don't know that only the three describe in their testimony spiritual experiences? Have you never read the testimony of the eight, which describes purely physical handling, hefting, and visual examination of the writings on the plates?

They never recanted THAT part. But most of them DID recant and say that Smith was either a ‘fallen prophet’ or not a prophet at all.

Wow! You have just admitted that the testimonies of the 3 and 8 witnesses were never recounted. Then to top it off, you admit that many of them later became disenchanted with the prophet, which would provide ample excuse for their recanting their testimonies. The fact that they did not under those crcumstances only adds to the soberness of their testimonies.

Finally, Richard Lloyd Anderson’s 1981 book Investigating the Book of Mormon Witnesses is typical LDS faith promoting history and not considered a serious scholarly work.

Again, you have played right into the hands of those who believe that the Book of Mormon is true. Anderson's book is thoroughly researched and documented, and takes into consideration allegations against the witnesses. This leads me to state the obvious: no one hating the Book of Mormon has produced an investigation of the witnesses that is as honest and open-minded as Anderson's, which may end up being the definitive work on the subject, even for those opposed to the Book of Mormon.

Come back and play when you have REAL scholarship to show me.

I have come back, not to play, but to point out the shallowness of your approach. I don't think that you are coming off very well, even to those who hate the Book of Mormon and wish that it did not exist.

BTW, I have read the BoM cover to cover at least 15 times (more than most LDS I know).

When you display such ignorance of the testimonies of the 3 and 8 witnesses, I find it difficult to believe that you have read the Book of Mormon 15 times. Anyone who hates the book as much as you would not want to waste one's time reading it more than once! So I think that you are lying.

What is wrong with it is it is a fanciful story (with WAAAAYYY to many ‘and it came to pass’es) that tries to pass itself off as a companion to the Bible and will lead many to Hell.

"A fanciful story"? It does not tell one story. It is a compilation of narratives, preachings, letters, dialogues between persons, etc.

Let's see, that makes me 2 for 2.

In your own mind only. How pitiful!

Next subject?

As if all the other Book of Mormon haters are cheering you on as their champion. I don't think that others are satisfied with your high-toned, but incredibly shallow rants. May God lead you to find something good to build up, instead of only wishing to tear down what you have ignorantly designated as evil.

408 posted on 05/28/2010 5:58:13 PM PDT by John McDonnell
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