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To: bone52; Saundra Duffy; urroner; JDW11235; Burkean; Normandy; killermedic; Paragon Defender; ...

all are invited...


2 posted on 05/25/2010 10:14:51 PM PDT by restornu
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To: restornu; colorcountry; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; svcw; Zakeet; SkyPilot; rightazrain; ...

Don’t meddle in the affairs of dragons for you are crunchy and taste good with Catsup.

IOW, don’t post about things you have no understanding of, dearie.


3 posted on 05/25/2010 10:22:30 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christan - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: restornu
all are invited...

Just tREAD or can they COMMENT as well?

29 posted on 05/26/2010 5:17:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...))
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To: restornu

Gosh Resty, looks like you bit off a little more than you planned on.


42 posted on 05/26/2010 6:37:36 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Abortion: one dead, one wounded.)
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To: restornu

Oh boy has I got a dilly!

Here is another pastor’s take on it. From L. R. Shelton.

The security of the believer in Christ Jesus.
1. The Scripture teaches God is the Author and Finisher of the believer’s faith and salvation.
Phl 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform [it] until the day of Jesus Christ:
Hbr 12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of [our] faith;
Hbr 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
2. As Christ saves a sinner He keeps him saved, and we have nothing to do with keeping ourselves after we are saved.
Jhn 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
Jhn 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any [man] pluck them out of my hand.
Jhn 10:29 My Father, which gave [them] me, is greater than all; and no [man] is able to pluck [them] out of my Father’s hand.
Jhn 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
2Ti 1:12 .. nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.
Rom 8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? [shall] tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?...
Rom 8:37 ...Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
Rom 8:38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
Rom 8:39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
3.The Holy Spirit seals the believer unto redemption and makes our salvation doubly sure.
Eph 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
Eph 1:13 ...after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Eph 1:14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
Jhn 5:24 ...He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
Col 3:3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
4. How are sinners saved?...
1. By the new birth from above
Jhn 3:3 “Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God... Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again”
2. A new creation
2Cr 5:17 Therefore if any man [be] in Christ, [he is] a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
3. Not by works of the Law
Gal. 3:10-13
4. But by Faith
Gal 3:6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.
Gal 3:11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, [it is] evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

*****
I have another I will post on what a person must do to LOOSE their salvation.


63 posted on 05/26/2010 8:42:03 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( Viva los SB 1070)
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To: restornu

I also have an article from the same preacher (L R Shelton) on what a believer must do to be lost.

1. He must take himself out of the Body of Christ into which he has been baptized by the Holy Spirit.
2. He must climb up to heaven and take from God his life which is hid in Christ.
3. He must pluck himself out of the hand of the Lord Jesus.
4. As he has been bought by Christ and no longer owns himself, he would have to sell himself if the original purchaser (God) agreed.
5.He must stop Christ from his Priestly work of intercession by which he is saved to the uttermost.
6.He must not believe when the scripture says the believer has eternal life and shall not fall into condemnation.

7. He must break the seal by which he has been sealed unto the day of redemption.
8. He must become ignorant of the fact that every child of God is..
a. Foreknown, predestinated, called, Justified, and glorified.
b. Perfected forever.
c. Complete in Christ.
d. Viewed by God as perfect in Christ.
9. He must wrest scripture from it’s context and shut his eyes to the general teaching of the word of God.
There is more but that is about all for now.


65 posted on 05/26/2010 8:48:23 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( Viva los SB 1070)
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To: restornu

Mormonism: Save by your own works; Keep by your own works.


107 posted on 05/26/2010 4:46:41 PM PDT by Gamecock (If you want Your Best Life Now, follow Osteen. If you want your best life forever, don't. JM)
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