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Where Are The Men?
True Manhood ^ | 5/15/2010 | Dave DiNuzzo

Posted on 05/17/2010 9:18:11 AM PDT by markomalley

Tonight, we went to Mass at a local parish we had never been to.  I’ve been wanting to go to a Mass there because I know several people who are parishioners at the parish who really like it.  After tonight, I’m confused as to why.  Besides the typical architectural disaster that this building was, the misplacement of the tabernacle and the lack of Catholic art (good statues, stained glass, etc.), the sense of what was about to happen was not Mass… it wasn’t sacred… it wasn’t important… it was just a thing.  That’s what I got when I first walked in.

DR Sanctuary

As Mass started, I was highly disappointed in what was taking place… a jazz concert masked by the appearance of a worship service.  Between the really obnoxious singers (all mic’d up individually, ouch!) and the electronic drum set, I couldn’t figure out what was happening… was it about the music group? or about the Mass?  In my mind, the music was winning, although it didn’t have much of a following in the congregation.  As Mass continued, I realized what the problem was.  It was shouting at me loud and clear…

There were virtually NO MEN in servant-leadership roles!  The vast majority of the servant-leaders were women, which has almost nothing to do with the women, and everything to do with the men.  When men don’t actively serve in parish life, specifically in the Mass, a parish is going to suffer.  Here’s the scenario at this parish; these numbers are typical for most parishes around the country.

So, out of 32 servant-leadership positions, (31 really, when you remove the priest from the list) only 4 were filled by men!  And one of those 4 was a 12 year-old boy altar server!  This is despicable.  Again, this has nothing to do with the women, and everything to do with the men!  I’ll explain myself in more detail, in the next post… you’ve got to come back!


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To: Quix; Irisshlass

If you two are Christians, you’ll stop fighting.


241 posted on 05/20/2010 8:57:51 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (Bob Dylan sez : What looks large from a distance, close up is never that big.)
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To: Quix

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at9MZ54Hst4

Pentecostal Speaking in Tongues = Being Demon possessed


242 posted on 05/20/2010 8:59:44 AM PDT by Irisshlass
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To: InvisibleChurch
If you two are Christians, you’ll stop fighting

show me exactly where I am fighting?

243 posted on 05/20/2010 9:01:51 AM PDT by Irisshlass
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To: Irisshlass

ok, you two are bitching


244 posted on 05/20/2010 9:05:46 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (Bob Dylan sez : What looks large from a distance, close up is never that big.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

No..I am not the one screaming or yelling or attacking his church and believers as rapid followers. I’m stating facts what the Penecostals believe in.


245 posted on 05/20/2010 9:13:09 AM PDT by Irisshlass
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To: Irisshlass

I don’t think your assertions about Pentecostals are in the same galactic cluster as facts.


246 posted on 05/20/2010 9:16:07 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: InvisibleChurch

I don’t think I accept your charicaterization as 100% fact . . . by some margin.

However, I will prayerfully ponder it.


247 posted on 05/20/2010 9:17:02 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: markomalley
It's the same with any profession - when the numbers "tip" toward women, wages and prestige plummet. It happened in the late 1800's with "secretaries and clerks" - then teachers - then nurses - and in countries with a "tipped" medical profession, the profession lacks power.

I suspect women bring this one on themselves... They're willing to work for less - and to allow exceptions to rules based on feelings...

248 posted on 05/20/2010 9:20:56 AM PDT by GOPJ (Americans..speak of capitalism's glories(rather)than of socialism's greatness. Elena Kagan (thesis))
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To: Quix

I’m glad Quix...and I’ll keep you my prayers too. :)


249 posted on 05/20/2010 9:21:21 AM PDT by Irisshlass
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To: Irisshlass

I respect heart-felt humble prayers to GOD.

Not those to other personages.


250 posted on 05/20/2010 9:26:38 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
I respect heart-felt humble prayers to GOD. Not those to other personages

No need to worry.

251 posted on 05/20/2010 9:30:23 AM PDT by Irisshlass
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To: bkaycee
Nope. Your church was created by men. The only question is what are their names and when did they create it.

My "Church" was created by the Man, Christ Jesus, built on the foundation of the Apostles and set back on the track by the reformation.

Yeah sure. The ruins of the Reformation created nothing except chaos and opportunity for the lord of this world. How about some Scripture for your claim and you giving us the name of your church. Unless you're ashamed of it...

I suggest you investigate history and Scripture to see the truth for yourself.

I have. That is why I'm Catholic.

252 posted on 05/20/2010 5:00:07 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr

I have. That is why I’m Catholic

I have also and that’s why I am now a Catholic. It is so apparent to those who are not blinded by the protestant revolution (notice I didn’t say reformation)......when it is written in the bible, written by, transcribed by, interpreted by, saved by, preserved by the Catholics.....what’s the problem????


253 posted on 05/20/2010 8:16:46 PM PDT by terycarl (4)
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