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To: Arthur McGowan; vladimir998; Judith Anne; roamer_1; c-b 1; ConservativeMind; zerosix; TruthHound; ..

I am not offended so much as I am curious as to the motive.

Every time I have seen a dispute it has been started by an individual of the Catholic persuasion that has ignited the fire by;

A.) claiming superiority over others

B,) Claiming their deceased loved ones who died in sin have a second chance after death

C.) Claiming that James, Peter, Paul, and other men the Catholics have promoted, for various reasons to Sainthood, now have equal same power of intercession with God as Christ does.

D.) Claiming that somehow a mere mortal woman is now elevated to the status of God with Christ.

I would offer other reasons, but the list of violations by the Catholic Church that go directly against Christ’s completed works on the cross and resurrection are actually longer then what I refer to as the Constitution of Christianity He offered in the sermon on the mount. Your adherence to traditions invalidate the word of God. You offer the word of men who wrote great works of theological discourse no doubt, yet they are but men, not God.

The Cannon is closed, to add to it is a sin. So anything outside of the word of God cannot replace nor refute His Son’s teachings. The Catholic Church is like the elders of Judaism whom Jesus ran against while He walked amongst us. You would rather believe that the traditions of your Church are what saves the souls of men. Rather it is the sacrificial death on the cross and His resurrection from death of our almighty God, Christ Himself who saves the souls of men. Not a membership in a quasi political gathering of men stuck on traditions made by mere mortals, many of which are probably languishing in hell as we speak because of their self importance over God.

I guess it would be only expected then that some Protestants will begin posting works of theological writings that have destroyed the Catholic faith so resoundingly that the Catholic Church needed to create a whole department just to defend their heretical practices.

The Catholic Church depends upon signs, wonders, and traditions of the Church along with the supposed infallible wisdom from the Pope for the salvation of their members.

I count on the blood of Christ for mine. No more, no less. Foolish yes, but to men the wisdom of God is foolish. In that I put my faith.


44 posted on 05/09/2010 6:57:17 AM PDT by OneVike (I am Chuck Wolk, previously known as chuck Ness, a Freeper in Christ since February of 1998)
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To: OneVike

I’m sorry, but I don’t believe you.

You wrote:

“A.) claiming superiority over others”

What is true and sent by God is superior to what is false or partly false and sent by man alone.

“B,) Claiming their deceased loved ones who died in sin have a second chance after death”

Catholics don’t teach that. Can you please post evidence for that claim?

“C.) Claiming that James, Peter, Paul, and other men the Catholics have promoted, for various reasons to Sainthood, now have equal same power of intercession with God as Christ does.”

Again, Catholics don’t teach that. Can you please post evidence for that claim?

“D.) Claiming that somehow a mere mortal woman is now elevated to the status of God with Christ.”

Again, Catholics don’t teach that. Can you please post evidence for that claim?

One of your points is a misunderstanding - perhaps based upon hurt feelings? - on your part. The other three are just outrageous untruths that Catholics do not teach and have never taught.

Attack us all you like, but at least attack us for what we actually teach and believe and not for untruths that you have made up.


45 posted on 05/09/2010 7:06:19 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: OneVike

“The Catholic Church depends upon signs, wonders, and traditions of the Church along with the supposed infallible wisdom from the Pope for the salvation of their members.”

Wrong. A bald faced false to fact ignorant claim.

An excerpt from the Catechism:

... the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door.

Next time you spread the falsehood above, it will be a knowing lie, a sin against God.


69 posted on 05/09/2010 9:25:21 AM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: OneVike
The Catholic Church depends upon signs, wonders, and traditions of the Church along with the supposed infallible wisdom from the Pope for the salvation of their members.

Have you ever asked the question, "Who is more infallible, the man elected Pope, or the men who elected that man?" Then to follow up, "What makes the elected man infallible over the men who elected that man?"

109 posted on 05/09/2010 10:31:19 AM PDT by Ken4TA (The truth hurts those who don't like truth!)
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To: OneVike
" Your adherence to traditions invalidate the word of God."

Protestantism is an ultimate lie in that it claims to refute and replace the "traditions of men" by replacing the Apostolic Tradition with the traditions of mere men. Every Protestant denomination is dominated by the tradition of its founder's vision.

190 posted on 05/09/2010 1:13:17 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: OneVike

I don’t want to be pinged regarding “Radio Replies.”


237 posted on 05/09/2010 3:39:01 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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