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Give Your All To . . . ? . . . . [A Rel Forum Research thread--Open]
Bible, Vultus Christi, Quix's noggin ^ | 28 APR 2010; 30 APR 2010 | Jesus, Mark Kirby & Quix

Posted on 04/30/2010 8:03:48 AM PDT by Quix

GIVE IT ALL TO . . . ? . . . .

--A Research Thread--

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7 “When you pray, don’t babble on and on as people of other religions do. They think their prayers are answered merely by repeating their words again and again. 8 Don’t be like them, for your Father knows exactly what you need even before you ask him! 9 Pray like this:

Our Father in heaven,
may your name be kept holy.
10 May your Kingdom come soon.
May your will be done on earth,
as it is in heaven.
11 Give us today the food we need,[a]
12 and forgive us our sins,
as we have forgiven those who sin against us.
13 And don’t let us yield to temptation,[b]
but rescue us from the evil one.[c]

--New Living Translation

7And when you pray, do not heap up phrases (multiply words, repeating the same ones over and over) as the Gentiles do, for they think they will be heard for their much speaking. [I Kings 18:25-29.]

8Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask Him.

9Pray, therefore, like this:

Our Father Who is in heaven, hallowed (kept holy) be Your name.
10Your kingdom come, Your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
11Give us this day our daily bread.
12And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven ([e]left, remitted, and let go of the debts, and have [f]given up resentment against) our debtors.
13And lead (bring) us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one. For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.

14For if you forgive people their trespasses [their [g]reckless and willful sins, [h]leaving them, letting them go, and [i]giving up resentment], your heavenly Father will also forgive you.

15But if you do not forgive others their trespasses [their [j]reckless and willful sins, [k]leaving them, letting them go, and [l]giving up resentment], neither will your Father forgive you your trespasses.

--Amplified

Pray with Simplicity

5"And when you come before God, don't turn that into a theatrical production either. All these people making a regular show out of their prayers, hoping for stardom! Do you think God sits in a box seat?

6"Here's what I want you to do: Find a quiet, secluded place so you won't be tempted to role-play before God. Just be there as simply and honestly as you can manage. The focus will shift from you to God, and you will begin to sense his grace.

7-13"The world is full of so-called prayer warriors who are prayer-ignorant. They're full of formulas and programs and advice, peddling techniques for getting what you want from God. Don't fall for that nonsense. This is your Father you are dealing with, and he knows better than you what you need. With a God like this loving you, you can pray very simply. Like this:

Our Father in heaven,
Reveal who you are.
Set the world right;
Do what's best— as above, so below.
Keep us alive with three square meals.
Keep us forgiven with you and forgiving others.
Keep us safe from ourselves and the Devil.
You're in charge!
You can do anything you want!
You're ablaze in beauty!
Yes. Yes. Yes.

14-15"In prayer there is a connection between what God does and what you do. You can't get forgiveness from God, for instance, without also forgiving others. If you refuse to do your part, you cut yourself off from God's part.

16-18"When you practice some appetite-denying discipline to better concentrate on God, don't make a production out of it. It might turn you into a small-time celebrity but it won't make you a saint. If you 'go into training' inwardly, act normal outwardly. Shampoo and comb your hair, brush your teeth, wash your face. God doesn't require attention-getting devices. He won't overlook what you are doing; he'll reward you well.
--THE MESSAGE

Mark Kirby:

O Mother of Good Counsel,
Mother of Perpetual Help,
I turn with confidence to thy maternal Heart,
and I renew my total and irrevocable consecration to thee.

I am all thine, Most Holy Mary,
and all that I have is thine.
I give thee my past with its burdens.
I give thee this present moment with its anxieties and fears.
I give thee my future and all that it holds.

There is no part of my life that is not open to thee,
no place so secret, or so darkened by sin
that thy presence and thy influence
are not wholly and ardently desired there.

I want to be completely transparent with thee,
utterly simple, guileless, and childlike.
Thou knowest, O Mother,
all my preoccupations,
all my intentions,
and all those recommended to my prayer.
Take them, I beseech thee, to thy Immaculate Heart
and, as my Advocate, my all-powerful intercessor, and my Mediatrix,
present them to thy Son.
Seeing them presented by thee
and held in thy maternal Heart,
there is nothing that He will not do
to give to each intention the one response
worthy of the infinite mercy and love of His Sacred Heart.

Praying in this way, I can be at rest,
for thou art my Mother,
and all that I entrust to thee will be,
I am sure,
received, and considered, and cared for
with a Mother's love.
Amen.

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TOPICS: Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: catholicbashing; exclusivity; focus; holiness; marybashing; worship
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To: stfassisi

I gather that you assume I would care about what you think about what I think.

LOL.

Someone I respect a lot spoke very highly of you recently.

I’m finding that more and more mystifying.

Whereas I was, as a result of their comment, earnestly working to understand you more charitably.

So much for that short lived effort.


661 posted on 05/01/2010 9:48:30 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
And he manages to do it with an uncommon warmth and caring as well.

Calling something doctrines of demons is not warmth. Warmth of someone living close to hell perhaps

662 posted on 05/01/2010 9:49:34 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: Alamo-Girl

PRAISE GOD.

BLESSED BE THE NAME OF THE LORD.
BLESSED BE THE WORD OF THE LORD.
BLESSED BE THE WAYS OF THE LORD.

BLESSED BE THOSE WHO LOVE THE LORD.

Thanks for your kind words and your excellent Scriptures.

INDEED:

To God be the glory, not man, never man!


663 posted on 05/01/2010 9:50:42 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

I have known plenty of Catholics who have given their all for Jesus. This is the truth.

Perhaps for many this is something that they don’t—for whatever reason—put all out for reading on a public forum. There is no fault in that. To each his own.

And this all reminds me of St. Francis of Asissi:
“Preach the Gospel. If necessary, use words.”

So much of genuine spiritual life and growth is a mystery to others and that’s because Jesus alone knows our hearts, knows how wondrously we are made and certainly knows the best way to abide in us in a way that will bring forth the best fruit. He comes to us and gives to us as the unique individual creation of His that we are.

I spent many year visiting the sick and elderly in my parish. Hidden out of sight except for those who ministered to their needs, either medically or spiritually, they were certainly unknown to the world at large. These same people inspired me with the depth of their at-one-ness with the Lord and their absolute acceptance of the cross they were bearing and their humble trust in all God’s plans for them.

They were accomplishing the tending-of-the-fields that was assigned to them and doing it without notice and accolade.
I learned more from them than I learned from many who were “busy”, or held themselves as high examples or were self-appointed heralds.

Surely you understand this. We are all called according to the measure we are given. And some may very well be “giving all” and it is not recorded and noted by others.

The deeds God loves the most are those He alone has witnessed. Remember Nathaniel?


664 posted on 05/01/2010 9:50:54 PM PDT by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words: "It's too late"))
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To: Quix
Thankfully, a lot of folks don’t have such a hard time.

People who follow Christ usually are not popular.

665 posted on 05/01/2010 9:51:12 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: Quix
I gather that you assume I would care about what you think about what I think.

I told you a long time ago that I am happy to pray for you(which I do) and not correspond to what you post me.

Everything is all about you,that's obvious

666 posted on 05/01/2010 9:53:55 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: Quix
Amen, Praise God!!!

And thank you for your encouragements!

667 posted on 05/01/2010 9:56:17 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: stfassisi; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; Godzilla; ...

As I’ve demonstrated the Vatican Edifice is not any more united, homogeneous in doctrine &/or beliefs held and practiced by the mass of average Roman Catholics than is the mass of diverse Protestants.

Of course, I’m not surprised that a number of Roman Catholics et al ABSOLUTELY REFUSE to face or deal with that objective REALITY.


668 posted on 05/01/2010 9:56:19 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: stfassisi; Outership

TRUTH IS WARMLY REDEMPTIVE

TO THOSE WHO WILL RECEIVE IT.

Even the truth of a scalpel.


669 posted on 05/01/2010 9:58:13 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
As I’ve demonstrated

You have demonstrated nothing. As usual you elevate yourself above the Martyrs who disagree with your modernism.

670 posted on 05/01/2010 9:59:44 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: Running On Empty

I THOROUGHLY AGREE with everything in your post.

I have observed such folks and their true God-focused spirituality as well.

PRAISE GOD FOR THAT.


671 posted on 05/01/2010 10:00:28 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
TRUTH IS WARMLY REDEMPTIVE

Yes it is! Unfortunately you don't possess it

672 posted on 05/01/2010 10:01:20 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: stfassisi

Have not been popular very often in my life until very late in my life.

God has been merciful in both states.


673 posted on 05/01/2010 10:01:53 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: stfassisi

WRONG AGAIN.

God have mercy.


674 posted on 05/01/2010 10:02:36 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: stfassisi
People who follow Christ usually are not popular.

Indeed.

If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before [it hated] you. - John 15:18

And again,

Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide [is] the gate, and broad [is] the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait [is] the gate, and narrow [is] the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. - Matt 7:13-14

Thank you for sharing your insights, dear brother in Christ!

675 posted on 05/01/2010 10:03:13 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Quix
Have not been popular very often in my life until very late in my life.

That ought to cause concern for you than.Anyone who even thinks He is popular is prideful and not practicing humility

676 posted on 05/01/2010 10:04:44 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: stfassisi; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; Godzilla; ...

Evidently you missed that post.

It merely cited facts about the Roman Catholic et al edifice—most of which have been inadvertently cited by Roman Catholics et al themselves hereon.

Your askew accusations of me at some point will have to be between you and The Lord. He knows the truth most emphatically.

Denial is not a river in Egypt.


677 posted on 05/01/2010 10:05:33 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: stfassisi

I rebuke that falsehood in the Name of Jesus.


678 posted on 05/01/2010 10:06:17 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: stfassisi

A root of bitterness usually clouds, distorts, obscures perception.

God has a solution for it.

. . . for those willing to change and be free of it.


679 posted on 05/01/2010 10:07:56 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: stfassisi
Do not make this thread "about" individual Freepers. That is also a form of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

680 posted on 05/01/2010 10:08:42 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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