Posted on 04/30/2010 8:03:48 AM PDT by Quix
INDEED. THX BRO.
This prayer to Mary is idolatrous. It tells the person to take their prayers TO MARY who will THEN take those prayers to Jesus.
Why? Because Jesus loves Mary MORE and He'll listen to HER before He'd listen to a believer.
This is the heart of the papist error which teaches that Mary is closer and more beloved than all those who believe in His name as God and Savior.
And that is a lie.
Then one said unto him, Behold, Thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee. But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren? And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother." -- Matthew 12:46-50 "While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.
Jesus tells us to pray to Him alone. Mary's prayers carry no more weight nor import than any Christian's prayers. Further, Mary has no reason to pray TO God anymore for anything since we assume she is WITH God, face-to-face.
Wake up, RCs. You're missing the point of Christianity. Christ alone saves the sinner. There is only ONE who deserves our prayers.
"After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name..." -- Matthew 6:9
Worse, Roman Catholic apologists who pray to Mary somehow think they are pleasing God when, in fact, as Scripture tells us, they are clearly and willfully disobeying God, at their peril.
For every man shall bear his own burden. Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things. Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting." -- Galations 6:4-8"But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another.
INDEED.
Life-giving Scriptures
to all WHO HEED THEM.
According to the rules, FReepers can call this man Father Flapdoodle, if they want.
"Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." - Jesus Christ, The Lion of Judah, King of Kings.
What you said.
Right. No one can control Quix’s noggin, maybe not even him. Flapdoodle is good
Was she in competition with Jesus when she said, "Let it be done unto me according to thy word"?
Was she in competition with Jesus when she said, "My soul magnifies the Lord, and my spirit rejoices in God, my savior"?
Was she in competition with Jesus when she said, "Do whatever he tells you"?
Read your Bible, and you, too, can know the truth, God willing.
AMEN!
Idolatry.
Well, she isn't our blessed mother to begin with. She's only the mother to her own children. And while she is blessed, we all are in Christ.
The other thing is, way too many of the prayers to Mary and the saints are prayers TO them asking them FOR things. It's not just a matter of asking her to intercede for us.
Besides, in light of Jesus clear teaching that we are to pray to the Father, what's the point in praying to anyone else? What can they do for us that God Himself can't do for us?
Not to mention that since they have died in their mortal bodies, they are dead to us and no longer accessible to us.
If it were intended that we pray to people who have died in their physical bodies, why didn't Jesus teach on it? Or Peter? Or any of the other apostles?
If she said”Do whatever he tells you”, then why don’t you? Jesus taught the disciples how to pray in the Lord’s prayer, and there’s no praying to Mary, saints, angels, dead people or anyone else but God the Father, mentioned.
Can I infer that your focus is on CHRIST ALONE?
EXCELLENT, LIFE-GIVING, PRICELESS SCRIPTURES, WORDS OF GOD, DEAR SISTER.
. . . to ALL--WHO HEED THEM.
Your Scriptures above brought an added layer of Holy Spirit enlightenment to me . . .
He also emphasized DOING THE WILL OF GOD elsewhere.
In that culture of that era . . . such a statement would have come across as HORRIFIC. The Jewish culture of that era was a lot like the Chinese culture in terms of parents, ancestors. Parents and ancestors and family had an almost god-like status. They were to be deferred to wholesale, across the board. Age, parental status, family were seen as wisdom AND RIGHT almost regardless.
Christ is clearly here saying--essentially, imho--NOT SO FAST, GROUP. THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS NOT BUSINESS AS USUAL ON SUCH SCORES. Yeah, I have an earthly blood family of parents and siblings. However, compared to
In another place, he notes that unless we are willing to 'hate' [comparatively] our parents and family--we are
If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
Evidently those words do not translate well into the hearts and minds of the "SUPER !!!!RELIGIOUS!!!!"
Many has been concocting, with satan's help, all manner of PULL OURSELVES UP BY OUR EARNING-OUR-OWN-SALVATION BOOTSTRAPS for millenia.
As Christ emphasized and Paul in Galatians emphasizes--IT WON'T WASH BEFORE THE THRONE OF GOD.
THE BLOOD OF CHRIST ALONE AVAILS.
BLESSED BE THE WORD OF THE LORD.
BLESSED BE THE NAME OF THE LORD.
BLESSED BE THE WAYS OF THE LORD.
Now that's a GREAT argument. AMEN!
Matthew 7:21-23 21"Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.
22"Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?'
23"And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'
Amen, it is written
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