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To: Quix; metmom; count-your-change; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; Gamecock; HarleyD; wmfights; ...
Do Roman Catholic apologists even read these prayers which they high-five with such peculiar glee?

This prayer to Mary is idolatrous. It tells the person to take their prayers TO MARY who will THEN take those prayers to Jesus.

Why? Because Jesus loves Mary MORE and He'll listen to HER before He'd listen to a believer.

This is the heart of the papist error which teaches that Mary is closer and more beloved than all those who believe in His name as God and Savior.

And that is a lie.

"While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.

Then one said unto him, Behold, Thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.

But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?

And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!

For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother." -- Matthew 12:46-50

Jesus tells us to pray to Him alone. Mary's prayers carry no more weight nor import than any Christian's prayers. Further, Mary has no reason to pray TO God anymore for anything since we assume she is WITH God, face-to-face.

Wake up, RCs. You're missing the point of Christianity. Christ alone saves the sinner. There is only ONE who deserves our prayers.

"After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name..." -- Matthew 6:9

Worse, Roman Catholic apologists who pray to Mary somehow think they are pleasing God when, in fact, as Scripture tells us, they are clearly and willfully disobeying God, at their peril.

"But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another.

For every man shall bear his own burden.

Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things.

Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting." -- Galations 6:4-8


22 posted on 04/30/2010 10:20:33 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
I gather that your focus is NOT per Mark Kirby's prayer focus.

Can I infer that your focus is on CHRIST ALONE?

EXCELLENT, LIFE-GIVING, PRICELESS SCRIPTURES, WORDS OF GOD, DEAR SISTER.

. . . to ALL--WHO HEED THEM.

Your Scriptures above brought an added layer of Holy Spirit enlightenment to me . . .

For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother." -- Matthew 12:46-50

CHRIST, in the above verse, was making a MUCH LARGER statement than I've given credit to, before.

He also emphasized DOING THE WILL OF GOD elsewhere.

In that culture of that era . . . such a statement would have come across as HORRIFIC. The Jewish culture of that era was a lot like the Chinese culture in terms of parents, ancestors. Parents and ancestors and family had an almost god-like status. They were to be deferred to wholesale, across the board. Age, parental status, family were seen as wisdom AND RIGHT almost regardless.

Christ is clearly here saying--essentially, imho--NOT SO FAST, GROUP. THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS NOT BUSINESS AS USUAL ON SUCH SCORES. Yeah, I have an earthly blood family of parents and siblings. However, compared to

THOSE WHO
DO
THE WILL
OF MY FATHER,

THEY ARE NOTHING
TO ME!
THOSE
WHO DO
THE WILL OF MY FATHER IN HEAVEN
ARE EQUAL
TO MY MOTHER, FATHER, BROTHERS AND SISTERS.

My earthly blood family has
NO MORE CLAIM
ON ME
THAN ANYONE ELSE
WHO DOES THE WILL OF MY FATHER.

In another place, he notes that unless we are willing to 'hate' [comparatively] our parents and family--we are

NOT FIT
FOR
THE
KINGDOM OF HEAVEN,
"CANNOT
BE MY DISCIPLE."

Luke 14:26:
If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

CANNOT be His disciple. Sobering words.

Evidently those words do not translate well into the hearts and minds of the "SUPER !!!!RELIGIOUS!!!!"

Many has been concocting, with satan's help, all manner of PULL OURSELVES UP BY OUR EARNING-OUR-OWN-SALVATION BOOTSTRAPS for millenia.

As Christ emphasized and Paul in Galatians emphasizes--IT WON'T WASH BEFORE THE THRONE OF GOD.

THE BLOOD OF CHRIST ALONE AVAILS.

BLESSED BE THE WORD OF THE LORD.
BLESSED BE THE NAME OF THE LORD.
BLESSED BE THE WAYS OF THE LORD.

37 posted on 04/30/2010 10:38:49 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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