Posted on 04/30/2010 8:03:48 AM PDT by Quix
Got it, the "kingdom of Heaven" isn't really Heaven.
Just out of curiousity, what is the "Kingdom" our Lord spoke of in the Lord's Prayer?
Keys are only good for one thing..to open something that has been locked.
The Keys were given to Peter after Peter had made a profession of faith ...That is what the keys opened.
Do you believe it is an actual key ring?
As I was saying, Protestants are really good at figuring out ways to dismiss as insignificant whatever is inconvenient.
Isn't it funny how Protestant theology "grows" to address what they oppose at the moment? The reality is that neither Luther nor Calvin ever suggested that Saint Peter wasn't the Pope or that the Virgin Mary wasn't the Mother of God, but those things became "necessary" for Protestants later, so it was changed.
The growth of Protestantism is basically identical to the growth of leftism, EVERYTHING is expendable based upon expediency. Even the way they speak is the same, Protestants say words like "the Pope" and "Catholics" with the same surliness that leftists say "Cheney" and "Halliburton".
It is amusing to watch as of late how Protestants have been willing to play dupes for the leftist media.
- "60 Minutes" runs a segment smearing Bush and conservative Protestants are disgusted.
- "60 Minutes" runs a segment smearing those who oppose homosexual marriage and conservative Protestants are disgusted.
- "60 Minutes" runs a segment smearing those who oppose abortion and conservative Protestants are disgusted.
- "60 Minutes" runs a segment about how Obama is the greatest president ever and conservative Protestants are disgusted.
- "60 Minutes" runs a segment smearing the Catholic Church and conservative Protestants cannot contain their glee.
There are approximately two billion Christians in the world, about sixty percent are Catholic or Orthodox, about 25% are "mainstream" Protestants who have basically embraced secularism, that leaves about 15% of Christians who are orthodox Christians (those who reject moral relativism, secularism, etc.). The funny thing is this 15% doesn't realize that the reason the left doesn't like the Catholic Church is the EXACT OPPOSITE of the reason that they don't like Catholics. But, despite this, they are willing to help the left any way they can to destroy the Catholic Church. And I have a question for this myopic group, if the left were to succeed in destroying the Catholic Church do you really think that they would continue to practice orthodox Christianity and reject moral relativism?
UNMITIGATED BALDERDASH.
Sheesh what groundless nonsense.
ABSOLUTELY INDEED:
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Other examples of people bowing down to men or other acts of attributing to men characteristics that belong to God. Kind of sets a precedent, doesn’t it?
Honoring or respecting someone or their position is one thing. As a matter of fact, we are commanded to respect each other. Responding to them in the manner in which you respond to God is another.
Acts 12:21- 23 On the appointed day Herod, wearing his royal robes, sat on his throne and delivered a public address to the people. They shouted, “This is the voice of a god, not of a man.” Immediately, because Herod did not give praise to God, an angel of the Lord struck him down, and he was eaten by worms and died.
Acts 14: 11When the crowd saw what Paul had done, they shouted in the Lycaonian language, “The gods have come down to us in human form!” 12Barnabas they called Zeus, and Paul they called Hermes because he was the chief speaker. 13The priest of Zeus, whose temple was just outside the city, brought bulls and wreaths to the city gates because he and the crowd wanted to offer sacrifices to them.
14But when the apostles Barnabas and Paul heard of this, they tore their clothes and rushed out into the crowd, shouting: 15”Men, why are you doing this? We too are only men, human like you. We are bringing you good news, telling you to turn from these worthless things to the living God, who made heaven and earth and sea and everything in them. 16In the past, he let all nations go their own way. 17Yet he has not left himself without testimony: He has shown kindness by giving you rain from heaven and crops in their seasons; he provides you with plenty of food and fills your hearts with joy.” 18Even with these words, they had difficulty keeping the crowd from sacrificing to them.
INDEED TO THE MAX.
Acts 15:13 When they finished, James spoke up: "Brothers, listen to me. 14Simon has described to us how God at first showed his concern by taking from the Gentiles a people for himself. 15The words of the prophets are in agreement with this, as it is written:
16" 'After this I will return and rebuild David's fallen tent. Its ruins I will rebuild, and I will restore it, 17that the remnant of men may seek the Lord, and all the Gentiles who bear my name, says the Lord, who does these things' 18that have been known for ages.
19"It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. 20Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood. 21For Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath."
22Then the apostles and elders, with the whole church, decided to choose some of their own men and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas.
INDEED.
What ain't funny is that these otherwise honest folks don't realize who their puppet master really is.
Exactly!
You've been told time and time again but you don't believe it...I'm sure you are not curious at all...
The Lord's Prayer gives you the answer if you pay attention, and side step your pre-programmed theology...
Mat 6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
Mat 6:10 Thy kingdom come (His Kingdom is coming). Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven (His Kingdom, His physical Kingdom is coming to earth...With Jesus as the physical King on the physical Earth...And His will shall be done on earth as it is in heaven).
His will is certainly NOT being done on Earth as it is in Heaven at this moment...
The only Kingdom on earth at this present time is the Kingdom of God...That is, 'Christ in us, we in Christ...It is completely spiritual...
Luk 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
Luk 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
This is scripture...This is in total conflict of what your religion teaches about the Kingdoms of God...You have a choice...Believe your church, or believe God...
Absolutely...They claim scripture is inspired by God, they just don’t bother to believe it...
Tell you what, next time I'm remotely curious about what Nestorians believe I will ask YOU.
This is scripture...This is in total conflict of what your religion teaches about the Kingdoms of God...
I really have no idea what you are talking about, but that's alright because I'm not actually interested in your ideas.
The "whatever" is SIN, bind and loose means the power to bind or forgive sin.
8If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. 10If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word has no place in our lives.
This was written directly to believers. It's an inspired promise from God that He will forgive our sins if we confess them. Man cannot override that.
And since Scripture cannot contradict itself, there is something wrong with the interpretation of those verses to mean that Jesus gave power to any man to take away sin or hold it against him and send him to hell as a result.
Peter’s vision that explained his commission shows one of the “keys” was opening to the Gentiles the opportunity to become part of that new “nation” being formed.
Jesus had earlier restricted the disciples to preaching only the lost sheep of Israel but now God had directed a Roman army officer to Peter.
Thus the “keys” had nothing to do sin and forgiveness by Peter.
THX THX
That, of course, is how we feel about a lot of the RC’s.
The INSTITUTION ALWAYS WINS out over God,
hands down . . . errrr . . . hands genuflecting?
So, your choice would be to disregard what Jesus Christ ACTUALLY SAID and replace it with YOUR INTERPRETATION of what Saint John wrote?
Let's look a little more at what Saint John had to say, shall we? (And the HE that is speaking below is Jesus Christ, just so you're clear.):
21 He said therefore to them again: Peace be to you. As the Father hath sent me, I also send you. 22 When he had said this, he breathed on them; and he said to them: Receive ye the Holy Ghost. 23 Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained. (John 20:21-22)
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