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To: RnMomof7; Mad Dawg; MarkBsnr; narses; Judith Anne; netmilsmom; Running On Empty; Natural Law; ...
Correction He was given the Keys to the KINGDOM not heaven

Got it, the "kingdom of Heaven" isn't really Heaven.

Just out of curiousity, what is the "Kingdom" our Lord spoke of in the Lord's Prayer?

Keys are only good for one thing..to open something that has been locked.

The Keys were given to Peter after Peter had made a profession of faith ...That is what the keys opened.

Do you believe it is an actual key ring?

As I was saying, Protestants are really good at figuring out ways to dismiss as insignificant whatever is inconvenient.

Isn't it funny how Protestant theology "grows" to address what they oppose at the moment? The reality is that neither Luther nor Calvin ever suggested that Saint Peter wasn't the Pope or that the Virgin Mary wasn't the Mother of God, but those things became "necessary" for Protestants later, so it was changed.

The growth of Protestantism is basically identical to the growth of leftism, EVERYTHING is expendable based upon expediency. Even the way they speak is the same, Protestants say words like "the Pope" and "Catholics" with the same surliness that leftists say "Cheney" and "Halliburton".

It is amusing to watch as of late how Protestants have been willing to play dupes for the leftist media.
- "60 Minutes" runs a segment smearing Bush and conservative Protestants are disgusted.
- "60 Minutes" runs a segment smearing those who oppose homosexual marriage and conservative Protestants are disgusted.
- "60 Minutes" runs a segment smearing those who oppose abortion and conservative Protestants are disgusted.
- "60 Minutes" runs a segment about how Obama is the greatest president ever and conservative Protestants are disgusted.
- "60 Minutes" runs a segment smearing the Catholic Church and conservative Protestants cannot contain their glee.

There are approximately two billion Christians in the world, about sixty percent are Catholic or Orthodox, about 25% are "mainstream" Protestants who have basically embraced secularism, that leaves about 15% of Christians who are orthodox Christians (those who reject moral relativism, secularism, etc.). The funny thing is this 15% doesn't realize that the reason the left doesn't like the Catholic Church is the EXACT OPPOSITE of the reason that they don't like Catholics. But, despite this, they are willing to help the left any way they can to destroy the Catholic Church. And I have a question for this myopic group, if the left were to succeed in destroying the Catholic Church do you really think that they would continue to practice orthodox Christianity and reject moral relativism?

1,981 posted on 05/05/2010 8:19:06 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
It is amusing to watch as of late how Protestants have been willing to play dupes for the leftist media.

Yep.

What ain't funny is that these otherwise honest folks don't realize who their puppet master really is.

1,987 posted on 05/05/2010 8:29:02 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: wagglebee
Just out of curiousity, what is the "Kingdom" our Lord spoke of in the Lord's Prayer?

You've been told time and time again but you don't believe it...I'm sure you are not curious at all...

The Lord's Prayer gives you the answer if you pay attention, and side step your pre-programmed theology...

Mat 6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
Mat 6:10 Thy kingdom come
(His Kingdom is coming). Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven (His Kingdom, His physical Kingdom is coming to earth...With Jesus as the physical King on the physical Earth...And His will shall be done on earth as it is in heaven).

His will is certainly NOT being done on Earth as it is in Heaven at this moment...

The only Kingdom on earth at this present time is the Kingdom of God...That is, 'Christ in us, we in Christ...It is completely spiritual...

Luk 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
Luk 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

This is scripture...This is in total conflict of what your religion teaches about the Kingdoms of God...You have a choice...Believe your church, or believe God...

1,989 posted on 05/05/2010 8:39:16 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: wagglebee
Got it, the "kingdom of Heaven" isn't really Heaven.

Just wanted you to remember heaven only has ONE KING , The same one that is the cornerstone of the church

Do you believe it is an actual key ring? As I was saying, Protestants are really good at figuring out ways to dismiss as insignificant whatever is inconvenient.

No answer huh wag? What do the keys open? The Mormons believe one has to be approved by Joseph Smith to get into heaven..do we need peters approval?

Exactly what did Peters key open Wag?

Isn't it funny how Protestant theology "grows" to address what they oppose at the moment? The reality is that neither Luther nor Calvin ever suggested that Saint Peter wasn't the Pope or that the Virgin Mary wasn't the Mother of God, but those things became "necessary" for Protestants later, so it was changed.

And catholics did not always agree on what constituted the scriptures , or private confession to a priest nor did they HAVE to believe as a doctrine the bread was the body of Christ or that may was assumed into heaven

BTW Luther thought the pope was the anti christ I believe

You can not tell us what the keys open ..so you do go on and on :)

Thought you might like to read this

...Why have I wanted to make this little introduction? In order to suggest to you that in Peter the Church is to be recognized. Christ, you see, built his Church not on a man but on Peter's confession. What is Peter's confession? 'You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.' There's the rock for you, there's the foundation, there's where the Church has been built, which the gates of the underworld cannot conquer.
Sermons, Volume III/6, Sermon 229P.1, p. 327.

So Wag one more time.. what did the keys open?

2,007 posted on 05/05/2010 9:46:01 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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