Posted on 04/30/2010 8:03:48 AM PDT by Quix
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7 “When you pray, don’t babble on and on as people of other religions do. They think their prayers are answered merely by repeating their words again and again. 8 Don’t be like them, for your Father knows exactly what you need even before you ask him! 9 Pray like this: Our Father in heaven, --New Living Translation 7And when you pray, do not heap up phrases (multiply words, repeating the same ones over and over) as the Gentiles do, for they think they will be heard for their much speaking. [I Kings 18:25-29.] 8Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask Him. 9Pray, therefore, like this: 15But if you do not forgive others their trespasses [their [j]reckless and willful sins, [k]leaving them, letting them go, and [l]giving up resentment], neither will your Father forgive you your trespasses. --Amplified Pray with Simplicity 5"And when you come before God, don't turn that into a theatrical production either. All these people making a regular show out of their prayers, hoping for stardom! Do you think God sits in a box seat? 6"Here's what I want you to do: Find a quiet, secluded place so you won't be tempted to role-play before God. Just be there as simply and honestly as you can manage. The focus will shift from you to God, and you will begin to sense his grace. 7-13"The world is full of so-called prayer warriors who are prayer-ignorant. They're full of formulas and programs and advice, peddling techniques for getting what you want from God. Don't fall for that nonsense. This is your Father you are dealing with, and he knows better than you what you need. With a God like this loving you, you can pray very simply. Like this: 16-18"When you practice some appetite-denying discipline to better concentrate on God, don't make a production out of it. It might turn you into a small-time celebrity but it won't make you a saint. If you 'go into training' inwardly, act normal outwardly. Shampoo and comb your hair, brush your teeth, wash your face. God doesn't require attention-getting devices. He won't overlook what you are doing; he'll reward you well. |
Mark Kirby: O Mother of Good Counsel, I am all thine, Most Holy Mary, There is no part of my life that is not open to thee, I want to be completely transparent with thee, Praying in this way, I can be at rest, |
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The gist of the theology that grants Mary all the roles of Christ, is that she now becomes mankind’s personal Savior, and that is unacceptable to believing Christians. It should be unacceptable to Catholics. I personally wonder why it is not.
Unless I'm mistaken, it's this one, in which Quix quotes from "Ferraro's manual about the Rosary".
Hi RnMomof7, good to see you.
I thought of that as well.
Slow down. WHAT assertion? I said nothing about ALL our antagonists. But there are some who meet the description I gave, or, at least, plausibly meet it.
spelled your name wrong, ping to above
Judith you may not believe something that the church teaches as true.. in that case then you are exempt from the “they” but many of the reformed posters here were Catholic and they know what the church taught..they can bring the proof of it to the discussion.. so when Catholics deny what is in black and white as true.. there is an issue.. either they do not know their own doctrine or history or they choose not to believe it is true.
For instance I believe that you do not think all the prayers Catholics say go Mary are worship.. but what we see is worship changing the name does not change it..
thnx.
Especially that last part of the last line.
.... even though the time spent on her steals time from Christ
How are ya Brian? ..I was surprised to see your name..it has been a long time
I consider that one of the
MOST OUTRAGEOUS, UNDERHANDED, RULE-BREAKING,
INACCURATE
ASSAULTS AND ACCUSATIONS that I’ve seen hereon in a long time.
Congrats. I’m sure you’ll win the white hanky award of the hour for that one.
Just seeing this now. Thanks for the correction. I won’t use the term again on the religion forum in this context.
I do not know? maybe your faith is not important enough to you to defend
As FReeper Hegewisch Dupa says Too many here can’t wait to unzip their dogma and swing it around in an obnoxious superiority dance.
Thats true, just look at the religion forum and note who the primary proselytizer of their faith is..hint hint ..it is not the protestants .
Sorry,
I’ve been playing Chinese chess at the college with a character of a brilliant lad while FREEPING this thread.
The result has been that I’ve kind of jumped around and hit and missed the thread train. I’ll try and get back on track and avoid picking scabs.
It does appear that there’s a concerted, if not conscious rabid clique effort to get the thread locked, pulled, transferred to the smokey back room or some such
. . . evidently largely because they have failed to make a very good showing in the contest of ideas.
Your wisdom in all this cat herding is wonderful.
THX TONS.
We had a Kenyan priest at our parish for a year, he was WONDERFUL! The kids loved him! Fr. B.
Sad to watch the
Papist bigots
wail, whine and throw dust in the air instead of deal rationally and forthrightly—or much at all—with the ideas and facts presented.
INDEED.
imho, The Vatican Institution, magicsterical, officials, authors, etc. and the Maryolators in the pews are all more or less consciously aware of what
MOTHER OF GOD implies.
That’s WHY they insist on it soooooooooooooo FIERCELY, STRIDENTLY and OUTRAGEOUSLY.
They LIKE the idea, the feeling, the inference . . .
that Mary is over God, Mothered God, ranks up there with God.
Interesting that you agree with 1000silverlings when he complains about freedom of speech being violated on the RF, but then flatter the RM.
LOL! Weasel words. Yep.
I don’t think this thread is going to be stopped since the give and take is coming from all sides and a few jabs with a sharp comment don’t draw blood.
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