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The gist of the theology that grants Mary all the roles of Christ, is that she now becomes mankind’s personal Savior, and that is unacceptable to believing Christians. It should be unacceptable to Catholics. I personally wonder why it is not.


1,181 posted on 05/03/2010 12:18:22 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Mad Dawg

spelled your name wrong, ping to above


1,186 posted on 05/03/2010 12:20:22 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: 1000 silverlings
The gist of the theology is that she now becomes mankind’s personal Savior,
and
that
is unacceptable
to believing Christians.
.
It should be unacceptable
to [Roman] Catholics [et al].
I personally wonder why it is not.

INDEED TO THE MAX!

1,258 posted on 05/03/2010 1:35:23 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: 1000 silverlings; metmom
The gist of the theology that grants Mary all the roles of Christ, is that she now becomes mankind’s personal Savior, and that is unacceptable to believing Christians. It should be unacceptable to Catholics. I personally wonder why it is not.

And when did you stop beating YOUR wife?

I would be very interested to find some official document which said, in so many words, "Now that we have Mary, we don't need Jesus. Mary is mankind's personal savior and has been granted all the roles of Christ."

Despite metmom's insistence that my experience of the Church is meaningless while hers is defining, I still will say I don't know of a single Catholic who thinks that.

I think some non-Catholics use the Catholic Church as an ink-blot. The hint that it is a pathological process is the amazing anger and name-calling which arises when we deny some preposterous thing of which we are accused. Some people need a group so that they can tell themselves that at least they aren't as bad or misled as those awful so-and-sos.

As must have been said on Fr at least a dozen times before, in Ineffabilis Deus it says:

the most Blessed Virgin Mary, in the first instance of her conception, by a singular grace and privilege granted by Almighty God, in view of the merits of Jesus Christ, the Savior of the human race, was preserved free from all stain of original sin,
Now some think it a virtue tobe unimaginative and to have a limited understanding of "being saved." These say, "Well, if she didn't sin, what's to be saved from?"

If somebody were to be, ahem, saved from falling over the edge of the Grand Canyon by a railing of some kind, WE would say they had been saved. Evidently our opponents think that saving only happens AFTER you're in trouble.

Okay. But that's not OUR problem.

1,524 posted on 05/03/2010 6:18:36 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Deus autem noster in caelo;* omnia quaecumque voluit fecit. Alleluia)
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