And when did you stop beating YOUR wife?
I would be very interested to find some official document which said, in so many words, "Now that we have Mary, we don't need Jesus. Mary is mankind's personal savior and has been granted all the roles of Christ."
Despite metmom's insistence that my experience of the Church is meaningless while hers is defining, I still will say I don't know of a single Catholic who thinks that.
I think some non-Catholics use the Catholic Church as an ink-blot. The hint that it is a pathological process is the amazing anger and name-calling which arises when we deny some preposterous thing of which we are accused. Some people need a group so that they can tell themselves that at least they aren't as bad or misled as those awful so-and-sos.
As must have been said on Fr at least a dozen times before, in Ineffabilis Deus it says:
the most Blessed Virgin Mary, in the first instance of her conception, by a singular grace and privilege granted by Almighty God, in view of the merits of Jesus Christ, the Savior of the human race, was preserved free from all stain of original sin,Now some think it a virtue tobe unimaginative and to have a limited understanding of "being saved." These say, "Well, if she didn't sin, what's to be saved from?"
If somebody were to be, ahem, saved from falling over the edge of the Grand Canyon by a railing of some kind, WE would say they had been saved. Evidently our opponents think that saving only happens AFTER you're in trouble.
Okay. But that's not OUR problem.
the most Blessed Virgin Mary, in the first instance of her conception, by a singular grace and privilege granted by Almighty God, in view of the merits of Jesus Christ, the Savior of the human race, was preserved free from all stain of original sin,
Where is that, in the bible?
Where'd I say that?
Or is that anything like telling me that mine is meaningless because I was immature in my thinking that the experiences I experienced that were backed up with Catholic teachings were normal?