Posted on 04/30/2010 8:03:48 AM PDT by Quix
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7 “When you pray, don’t babble on and on as people of other religions do. They think their prayers are answered merely by repeating their words again and again. 8 Don’t be like them, for your Father knows exactly what you need even before you ask him! 9 Pray like this: Our Father in heaven, --New Living Translation 7And when you pray, do not heap up phrases (multiply words, repeating the same ones over and over) as the Gentiles do, for they think they will be heard for their much speaking. [I Kings 18:25-29.] 8Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask Him. 9Pray, therefore, like this: 15But if you do not forgive others their trespasses [their [j]reckless and willful sins, [k]leaving them, letting them go, and [l]giving up resentment], neither will your Father forgive you your trespasses. --Amplified Pray with Simplicity 5"And when you come before God, don't turn that into a theatrical production either. All these people making a regular show out of their prayers, hoping for stardom! Do you think God sits in a box seat? 6"Here's what I want you to do: Find a quiet, secluded place so you won't be tempted to role-play before God. Just be there as simply and honestly as you can manage. The focus will shift from you to God, and you will begin to sense his grace. 7-13"The world is full of so-called prayer warriors who are prayer-ignorant. They're full of formulas and programs and advice, peddling techniques for getting what you want from God. Don't fall for that nonsense. This is your Father you are dealing with, and he knows better than you what you need. With a God like this loving you, you can pray very simply. Like this: 16-18"When you practice some appetite-denying discipline to better concentrate on God, don't make a production out of it. It might turn you into a small-time celebrity but it won't make you a saint. If you 'go into training' inwardly, act normal outwardly. Shampoo and comb your hair, brush your teeth, wash your face. God doesn't require attention-getting devices. He won't overlook what you are doing; he'll reward you well. |
Mark Kirby: O Mother of Good Counsel, I am all thine, Most Holy Mary, There is no part of my life that is not open to thee, I want to be completely transparent with thee, Praying in this way, I can be at rest, |
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I can foresee a problem, though, with other FReepers who will demand that you take sides, to the detriment of our attempts at FRiendship. I wouldn’t like to see you put in a bad position with others.
Crystal.
Put your glass down, you’ll get your punch.
Yes, one of my very closest friends is a PCA. However, I would not expect him to remain a friend if he thought I secretly hated the PCA.
Look at some of the things that have been said about Catholics on here (granted some of the more offensive posts have been pulled), do you honestly thing that the person who posted these could utter those words to a friend who happened to be a devout Catholic and keep them as a friend?
“After several years of reading exactly what Roman Catholics believe via their own posts and websites and catechism, it is more clear than ever that the church in Rome preaches another Gospel.”
Crystal.
INDEED—CRYSTAL CLEAR.
**He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named, and found a lot of the very same phrases, scriptures, and ideas that are used to rebut Catholic precepts here on FR are THERE. It certainly appears that while not giving attribution to the unacceptable source, the unacceptable source is being used.**
I am wondering if the Religion Moderator is aware of this. I personally have never checked out that — Not To Be Named” site. You post is very interesting. Thanks for your research.
Perhaps you could go back and point out where any Catholics asked for the posts to be pulled. I for one wish they could remain, pulling them makes it far to easy for the offender to later deny making the statement.
One other problem:
Catholic Freepers will ALWAYS have my loyalty over others.
I prefer
for my loyalty to be to
GOD AND THE TRUTH
and let the chips fall where they may.
You sound like it is your opinion that the
RM doesn’t have a perception and mind of his own to notice such things and take action on his own.
I’ve never seen any hint that
such a silly assumption was remotely true.
Mind-reading is against the rules.
It's polite to wait until you're asked.
It is sad
. . . chronically sad . . .
that when Roman Catholics et al appear to be losing
on the playing field of ideas and intellectual discourse
all manner of heavy handed ‘dirty pool’ efforts surface to diminish or assault the opposition.
Very Christian, that.
I was baptized and raised Catholic with priests and nuns in the family. I know what the Catholic church teaches and what its about.
While the Catholic church denies in words, as the FRoman Catholics do, that it worships Mary, since they attribute to her all the characteristics of God, give her the same titles that Christ and Christ alone is worthy to bear, and make statues of her to put in their churches to pray to her, yes, in fact they are worshiping her.
Take Mary out of a Catholic Church and watch what happens.
I agree with Mark Bsnr.
If you see an unattributed excerpt or article from that or any banned source, send me a Freepmail with the link to the post and to the banned source.
Also, just because a source is banned not everything that source uses as its source is banned. For instance, that particular source also references the Bible which is obviously not banned here.
Finally, a Freeper may arrive at a similar conclusion to one stated on a banned source without actually relying on a banned source. Full preterism for instance is a Christian Identity (banned) belief and therefore raises a red flag with me. So instead of pulling the Freeper's post, I might require him to state his views concerning race, Jews, etc. to make sure he is not Christian Identity. If he does not decry racism and anti-Semitism, then I nuke or ban him.
The Beautiful Side of Evil, Johanna Michaelsen
This lady was involved in the occult and worked with a psychic healer for many years and was being trained in it when she met Christ. This is an autobiography of her life and journey.
I have no doubt at all that Satan can counterfeit miracles, as he has in the past and will again in the future.
What does that have to do with my statement that Catholics weren't the ones asking for the post to be removed?
I’ve never seen any hint that such a silly assumption was remotely true.
Then what did you mean by this?:
IT NEVER FAILS . . . when the Roman Catholic et al side gets pummeled good
on the field of ideas, practices, beliefs, history, logic, Scripture
then they wail, whine, throw dust in the air and run screaming to the authoritiy’s “apron strings.”
Okay. I thought it was okay, since I had seen others do it. But I will comply, of course.
“No replies. “
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No Catholics here to refute that?
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