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Nifonging the Catholic Church
me ^ | April 18, 2010 | vanity

Posted on 04/18/2010 9:49:35 PM PDT by Judith Anne

I seriously wonder about some FReepers, sometimes. Any other person accused of a crime would be defended by every FReeper as being innocent until proven guilty by a court of law. I've seen whole threads written by men who have been accused of child abuse by ex-wives out to deny them their visitation rights or to wrest more money out of them. These men are rightly indignant, and furious about the unjust accusations that cannot be proven but are never withdrawn.

Yet where are those FReepers when a PRIEST is accused? Where is the presumption of innocence? Suddenly, every accusation becomes a verdict, and not only the accused but his entire organization and all its adherents are held responsible.

I can only wonder what some of these so-called conservatives (who so faithfully defend the Constitution) would do, if THEY were the ones accused! It is a nightmare for any man -- all of you know how even the accusation stains the man forever, even if it is proven false!

Not only that, many here assert that the problems of 30, 40 and even 50 years ago must be tried in the media TODAY!

Remember the Duke rape case? There are more similarities than differences here. The priests are accused, nifonged, and instead of being defended, they are vilified!

What other man of you could stand under the weight of such an accusation trumpeted by the press, and come out whole? None! And such accusations made, LONG after the statute of limitations has passed, sometimes even after the accused is dead and buried for YEARS -- are YOU one of those who automatically, reflexively, spitefully, and gleefully act as judge, jury, and executioner?

Women! What if it were YOUR HUSBAND, YOUR BROTHER, YOUR FATHER, YOUR UNCLE, YOUR SON who was accused? Wouldn't you want the best defense possible? Wouldn't YOU believe in their innocence? Wouldn't YOU help protect your loved ones as much as possible? And yet, YOU JUDGE THE CHURCH FOR DOING WHAT YOU WOULD DO?

Shame! Vast shame! On all who have sinned against the innocent!


TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: denialnotrivernegypt; excuses; falseaccusations; koolaidcatholics; moralrot; moredeflection; nifong
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To: metmom

“”there is NOTHING, not one thing in Scripture that supports the Catholic teachings about her “”

You’re very wrong on this and make the common mistake of many protestants by not reading the Bible through typology like the early Christians did

I suggest you read the typology section of this post
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2499879/posts?page=50#50


1,801 posted on 04/25/2010 8:50:20 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; MarkBsnr
"Mark, your occasional snarky remarks, in response to no question posed to you, are noted."

Yet they resonated enough to draw a response....LOL

1,802 posted on 04/25/2010 8:58:52 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law
And now one from you.

There's just no end to the frivolity on this thread.

1,803 posted on 04/25/2010 9:04:07 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: stfassisi; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; Godzilla; ...

IN OTHER WORDS,
Pile a stinking pile
of rubber history
on top of
a stinking pile
of rubber Bible!
. . .
on top of
a stinking pile
of rubber dictionary!
Yeah, THAT'S
a GREAT
route to
TRUTH!
/sar

1,804 posted on 04/25/2010 9:05:59 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; MarkBsnr; metmom

In the old Testament, the Ark of the Covenant was holy because of what it contained inside. It represented the presence of God to the Israelites. God made it clear to Moses in Exodus 25 that every detail must be followed precisely in the construction of the ark. What does this have to do with Mary? The ark of the Old Testament was a dwelling place for God on earth, and Mary is the ark of the new covenant for she carried God’s only son. Would the same God who carefully instructed the creation of the old ark disregard the new ark (vessel) that carried His son? If the old ark was so important to God, would not the ark that carried His Son be even more important? Mary is not to be disregarded and thrown aside. How could any woman raise a child so perfectly as Mary raised Jesus, without not being filled with graces upon graces from above?


1,805 posted on 04/25/2010 9:11:11 PM PDT by narses (Only half the patients who go into an abortion clinic come out alive.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

No free will in your odd sect eh?


1,806 posted on 04/25/2010 9:12:50 PM PDT by narses (Only half the patients who go into an abortion clinic come out alive.)
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To: narses

Standing by for another Tommy Smothers “yeah, but” response.....LOL


1,807 posted on 04/25/2010 9:14:03 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: MarkBsnr
"And it came to pass, when the judge was dead, that they returned, and corrupted themselves more than their fathers, in following other gods to serve them, and to bow down unto them; they ceased not from their own doings, nor from their stubborn way." -- Judges 2:19

1,808 posted on 04/25/2010 9:14:34 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: narses
No pederast priests in my Presbyterian church.

Sadly, Rome cannot say likewise in what appears to be a majority of their churches.

No doubt this terrible sin stems from a belief in their being "another Christ."

They feel entitled.

1,809 posted on 04/25/2010 9:17:39 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
I've gone back over the OPC website searching for the claims and proofs of Christianity that you make. There is only one word that describes the OPC pretence of Christianity:


1,810 posted on 04/25/2010 9:19:30 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: narses

Revolting fiction, concocted by blasphemous men who obviously haven’t read the Scriptures.


1,811 posted on 04/25/2010 9:19:35 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: MarkBsnr

Girls post cat pictures.


1,812 posted on 04/25/2010 9:19:59 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: MarkBsnr

No.


1,813 posted on 04/25/2010 9:21:05 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Natural Law

You certainly have twisted and warped the very meaning of the words, quoted out of context and ignored the very real scriptural basis for the Catechism.


1,814 posted on 04/25/2010 9:21:14 PM PDT by narses (Only half the patients who go into an abortion clinic come out alive.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Results 1 - 10 of about 259,000 for Presbyterian child abuse with Safesearch on. (0.26 seconds)


1,815 posted on 04/25/2010 9:22:55 PM PDT by narses (Only half the patients who go into an abortion clinic come out alive.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Ignorance of scripture seems to be the hallmark of your posts. Why is that?


1,816 posted on 04/25/2010 9:23:45 PM PDT by narses (Only half the patients who go into an abortion clinic come out alive.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"No pederast priests in my Presbyterian church."

Aside from the fact that you don't call anyone a priest, how would you know?

1,817 posted on 04/25/2010 9:24:20 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: narses
lol. Oh, that's scientific. Let's see about "Catholic child abuse"

2, 460,000.

Roughly 10 to one. lol

1,818 posted on 04/25/2010 9:25:31 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Natural Law
Is that your excuse? RCs don't know?

People know. Presbyterians who know go to the police.

RCs who know must keep the papal oath of secrecy or risk excommunication so they keep their mouths shut and trust their local bishop to...forgetaboutit.

1,819 posted on 04/25/2010 9:27:07 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Natural Law
Is that your excuse? RCs don't know?

People know. Presbyterians who know go to the police.

RCs who know must keep the papal oath of secrecy or risk excommunication so they keep their mouths shut and trust their local bishop to...forgetaboutit.

1,820 posted on 04/25/2010 9:27:08 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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