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Nifonging the Catholic Church
me ^ | April 18, 2010 | vanity

Posted on 04/18/2010 9:49:35 PM PDT by Judith Anne

I seriously wonder about some FReepers, sometimes. Any other person accused of a crime would be defended by every FReeper as being innocent until proven guilty by a court of law. I've seen whole threads written by men who have been accused of child abuse by ex-wives out to deny them their visitation rights or to wrest more money out of them. These men are rightly indignant, and furious about the unjust accusations that cannot be proven but are never withdrawn.

Yet where are those FReepers when a PRIEST is accused? Where is the presumption of innocence? Suddenly, every accusation becomes a verdict, and not only the accused but his entire organization and all its adherents are held responsible.

I can only wonder what some of these so-called conservatives (who so faithfully defend the Constitution) would do, if THEY were the ones accused! It is a nightmare for any man -- all of you know how even the accusation stains the man forever, even if it is proven false!

Not only that, many here assert that the problems of 30, 40 and even 50 years ago must be tried in the media TODAY!

Remember the Duke rape case? There are more similarities than differences here. The priests are accused, nifonged, and instead of being defended, they are vilified!

What other man of you could stand under the weight of such an accusation trumpeted by the press, and come out whole? None! And such accusations made, LONG after the statute of limitations has passed, sometimes even after the accused is dead and buried for YEARS -- are YOU one of those who automatically, reflexively, spitefully, and gleefully act as judge, jury, and executioner?

Women! What if it were YOUR HUSBAND, YOUR BROTHER, YOUR FATHER, YOUR UNCLE, YOUR SON who was accused? Wouldn't you want the best defense possible? Wouldn't YOU believe in their innocence? Wouldn't YOU help protect your loved ones as much as possible? And yet, YOU JUDGE THE CHURCH FOR DOING WHAT YOU WOULD DO?

Shame! Vast shame! On all who have sinned against the innocent!


TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: denialnotrivernegypt; excuses; falseaccusations; koolaidcatholics; moralrot; moredeflection; nifong
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To: Gamecock

Interesting point.


1,441 posted on 04/25/2010 11:47:32 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: narses

So something did precede the Triune God? Hmmm...


1,442 posted on 04/25/2010 11:48:25 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: metmom
Thank you for sharing your insights, dear sister in Christ!
1,443 posted on 04/25/2010 11:50:01 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Still wrong, again. What sect is it that teaches you so poorly?


1,444 posted on 04/25/2010 11:51:12 AM PDT by narses (Only half the patients who go into an abortion clinic come out alive.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; metmom

Part of the whole confessional system is based on a Roman Catholic mistranslation of the Greek.

Repent was translated into “do penance” and we know have Catholics in closets spilling their guts to Priests.


1,445 posted on 04/25/2010 11:51:47 AM PDT by Gamecock (If you want Your Best Life Now, follow Osteen. If you want your best life forever, don't. JM)
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To: Gamecock

At least one of the people “bashing” St. Paul was born to a Jewish woman.


1,446 posted on 04/25/2010 11:52:06 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Indeed. Praise God!!!

Thank you for your encouragements, dear sister in Christ!

1,447 posted on 04/25/2010 11:52:53 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Judith Anne; Dr. Eckleburg

So why are you bashing Jews?


1,448 posted on 04/25/2010 11:53:49 AM PDT by Gamecock (If you want Your Best Life Now, follow Osteen. If you want your best life forever, don't. JM)
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To: Judith Anne

JA, didn’t you know that your well meaning thread would just become a “Bash the Catholic Church” opportunity?


1,449 posted on 04/25/2010 11:54:12 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: netmilsmom

Well, I had hope.


1,450 posted on 04/25/2010 11:56:10 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: narses; Gamecock; metmom; UriÂ’el-2012; Quix; RegulatorCountry; Alex Murphy; 1000 silverlings; ...
Dr. Eckleburg wrote: "And according to the RCC catechism, Roman Catholics are to entrust themselves to Mary at the hour of their death!"

Here is what the Catechism REALLY teaches rather than the lies spread by the ignorant

Oh, please. This travesty from the RCC catechism has been posted so many times I practically know it by heart.

From Vatican.va...

2677 - Holy Mary, Mother of God: With Elizabeth we marvel, "And why is this granted me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?"36 Because she gives us Jesus, her son, Mary is Mother of God and our mother; we can entrust all our cares and petitions to her: she prays for us as she prayed for herself: "Let it be to me according to your word."37 By entrusting ourselves to her prayer, we abandon ourselves to the will of God together with her: "Thy will be done." Pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death: By asking Mary to pray for us, we acknowledge ourselves to be poor sinners and we address ourselves to the "Mother of Mercy," the All-Holy One. We give ourselves over to her now, in the Today of our lives. And our trust broadens further, already at the present moment, to surrender "the hour of our death" wholly to her care. May she be there as she was at her son's death on the cross. May she welcome us as our mother at the hour of our passing38 to lead us to her son, Jesus, in paradise.

Do you people even read this stuff? Or just swallow it whole?

Mary is not the person you should be giving yourself over to nor wholly surrendering yourself to at the hour of your death.

No one will lead you to Jesus when you die. He will be there the instant your life is finished.

This is the kind of lie that kills faith and reason and salvation. Repent of it.

1,451 posted on 04/25/2010 12:00:17 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Gamecock
So why are you bashing Jews?

Name another Jew I have "bashed."

1,452 posted on 04/25/2010 12:00:29 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Judith Anne

We always do.

But self-righteousness will always trump any reasonable logic.
911 truthers and those who hate the Catholic Church, will never let facts get in the way of their reality.

And here, I’ll say it because it’s never said to us....Thank you for your post, Dear Sister in Christ.


1,453 posted on 04/25/2010 12:00:38 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: Judith Anne

Paul


1,454 posted on 04/25/2010 12:01:31 PM PDT by Gamecock (If you want Your Best Life Now, follow Osteen. If you want your best life forever, don't. JM)
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To: netmilsmom

Thank you for your insights, dear sister in Christ! ;-D


1,455 posted on 04/25/2010 12:02:04 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"Do you really believe that?"

Are you calling me a liar or attempting to read my mind?

I know the reason the language of the Church was Latin as to 99.99% of all biblical and historical scholars. Having studied Latin and German as well as Church history in a "classic education" I know full well that theological constructs lend themselves better to some languages than others. It is the same reason that Chopin and Mozart can't be appreciated when played on a kazoo.

1,456 posted on 04/25/2010 12:02:27 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Judith Anne

I do adore you JA!!!!


1,457 posted on 04/25/2010 12:03:17 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: Gamecock; metmom
Part of the whole confessional system is based on a Roman Catholic mistranslation of the Greek. Repent was translated into “do penance” and we know have Catholics in closets spilling their guts to Priests.

And popes flogging themselves in those same closets.

In fact, there's a lot of priests in closets.

1,458 posted on 04/25/2010 12:03:44 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Gamecock

He is the only one I have “bashed,” to my knowledge.

Oh, of course, I did say I wasn’t that wild about Jeremiah. If that’s bashing, well, I’m not that wild about the presbyterians, here, either. But since they could never qualify as Jews, I guess that doesn’t count.


1,459 posted on 04/25/2010 12:04:43 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: netmilsmom

FOFLOL!!!


1,460 posted on 04/25/2010 12:05:51 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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